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Here is the funds disbursement policy, as modified and adopted by the
Coordinating Committee.  Please let the members of your committee know that
these funds are available to support their work.

Thanks,
X

MAPC FUNDS DISBURSEMENT POLICY
Adopted October 14, 2001, by the Coordinating Committee


(1)  The Co-Treasurers are authorized to disburse funds as requested by each
Working Group, up to the following limits:

 Fundraising &amp; Finance $ 150.00
 Communication  $   50.00
 Media    $   50.00
 Action    $ 200.00
 Policy    $   50.00
 Education/Outreach  $ 250.00
 Arts &amp; Culture  $   50.00

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to obtain free or donated materials and services whenever possible.
(Working Groups should report the value of in-kind donations to the
Co-Treasurers; this information can assist the Coalition in obtaining
foundation grants.)

Funds within these limits may be disbursed either as prepayment to vendors
or as reimbursement for members' out-of-pocket expenses.  Disbursement
requests should be submitted to the Co-Treasurers by the Outie for each
committee, and should be accompanied by appropriate documentation (receipts,
invoices, etc.).  Except in emergencies, disbursement requests should be
mailed to MAPC, P. O. Box 422, Mazomanie, WI 53560-0422.

The Co-Treasurers may refer questionable, undocumented, or potentially
inappropriate disbursement requests to the Coordinating Committee for
review.

(2)  Expenditures exceeding these  limits must be approved by the
Coordinating Committee.  Except in emergency situations, requests for
approval should be submitted by the Working Group in advance, prior to
expenditure or commitment of funds.

(3) All Working Groups are encouraged to work with Fundraising &amp; Finance to
incorporate routine fundraising activities (passing the hat, selling
buttons, etc.) into their activities.  Funds raised through these activities
will be used to support the work of the entire Coalition.

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whole) should seek approval from the Coordinating Committee as part of its
request for expenditures of funds exceeding its limit .  Examples would
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conference, or bus tickets for travel to a national rally.

(4) The Co-Treasurers shall submit financial reports to the Coordinating
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Sorry to clutter your mailbox, but I forgot to add a thing about speakers.
If you vote for an action tomorrow, please include your thoughts on what
topics should be addressed by our speakers. Escalation of the conflict is
one, American casualties another, debunking the precision of military
operations would also work.
Some other suggestions?

thanks,
x
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Hi all,
Sorry I missed the meeting tonight - I had a work meeting go long, and then
other work to finish afterwards.
I did hear back from X on the city council resolution - she's
interested, but concerned we not be too divisive (she specifically mentioned
the school board uproar about the pledge). Hopefully I'll be able to speak
with her in person soon. Anyone else interested in coming?
-X

National Call-In to Washington

"[Violent revenge] is not the way to go. It will not avenge our son's death.
Not in our son's name. Our son died a victim of an inhuman ideology. Our
actions should not serve the same purpose. Let us grieve. Let us reflect and
pray. Let us think about a rational response that brings real peace and
justice to our world.  But let us not as a nation add to the inhumanity of
our times."
 letter to President Bush, from the parents of Greg Rodriguez, who died in
the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center

NO MORE VICTIMS
A NATIONAL CALL-IN TO END THE WARCall Washington this week (Oct. 15 - 19)
And again on OCTOBER 24th, 8 am - 5 pm (eastern time)
Because the U.S. has chosen to bomb Afghanistan, one of the most tragic and
war ravaged countries in the world, and because the siege and bombing of
Iraq
continues, the National Coalition for Peace and Justice (NCPJ), a coalition
of the nation's largest peace and justice organizations, urges you to join
with thousands of other concerned citizens from across the country in
demanding "no more victims!" Within hours of the first U.S. air strikes
against Afghanistan, a U.S. missile killed 4 UN mine disposal workers in
Kabul. Over one million Afghan civilians have fled their homes in terror and
hundreds of civilians are reported dead. Already dealing with a humanitarian
crisis, aid workers are now expecting a disaster. In Iraq, the
longest-sustained air campaign since the Vietnam War continues. Since 1998,
U.S. bombs have killed over 300 civilians in Iraq, including two killed
earlier this month in the Iraqi port city of Basra. In addition, U.S.-led
sanctions against Iraq have killed at least one million civilians since
1991.
(See back for talking points). And now there is a threat of the war
engulfing
the entire region. On October 8th, the Bush administration presented a
letter
to the UN Security Council stating: "we may find that our self-defense
requires further actions with respect to other organizations and other
states". Add your weight to stopping the war machine.
Call your elected officials this week and then call again on October 24th,
along with as many friends and family as you can mobilize!
CALL PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH via the White House comment line at
202-456-1111
CALL SEC. OF STATE COLIN POWELL tel. 202-647-5291; fax 202-261-8577
Urge the President and Secretary of State Powell to:

1.  Exercise the rule of law, not the rule of force, in bringing the
perpetrators of the September 11 attacks to justice.
2.  End the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan to allow aid workers to return and
restore the delivery and distribution of essential aid to Afghan civilians.
Bombs and food drops are not compatible. (see back for talking points).
3.  Provide U.S. funding for the reconstruction of Afghanistan, a nation
that
has been destroyed by international policies and neglect. Provide over $1
billion for the reconstruction of Afghanistan and strongly support the
United
Nations' special representative, Francesc Vendrell, and the UN-led peace
process in Afghanistan.
4.  Lift the economic sanctions against Iraq, which targets Iraqi civil
society and have claimed the lives of at least half a million children since
the 1991 Gulf War.
5.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents.


CALL YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS via the Capitol Switchboard tel. (202)
225-3121  or  (202) 224-3121  
Urge your U.S. Representative and Senators to:

1.  Show the same courage as Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) who broke ranks and
criticized the war on Afghanistan, questioning whether the President had
"thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." Ask
them to support efforts to bring the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks to
justice under law, not through war.
2.  Allocate the $1 billion or more needed to rebuild Afghanistan and
encourage the administration to strongly support the UN-led peace process in
Afghanistan.
3.  Support measures that will stop damage to the Iraqi economy and further
injury of innocent civilians. This means ending the 11-year-long economic
siege on Iraq, while maintaining an international ban on all arms sales to
Iraq until the Iraqi government respects human rights and the rule of law.
4.  Defend civil liberties and condemn attacks on American Arabs, Muslims,
and other U.S. citizens and residents. Note: When calling Members of
Congress, ask to speak with the staffer that handles foreign policy or
national security. Be prepared to leave a brief voice message and your phone
number if necessary.


This ALERT has been endorsed by the National Coalition for Peace &amp; Justice,
which includes Peace Action, War Resisters League, Fellowship of
Reconciliation, American Friends Service Committee, Pax Christi, Women's
Association for Nuclear Disarmament, Education for Peace in Iraq Center and
other national peace &amp; justice groups. Visit www.saveageneration.org for the
latest information, and visit www.warresisters.org/demos.htm for a calendar
of anti-war events around the country.
 
____________________________________________
Diane Farsetta
East Timor Action Network field organizer   ETAN field office
Social Justice Center
office 608-663-5431                         1202 Williamson St
cell 608-347-4598                           Madison, WI 53703
home 608-255-4598                           fax 608-227-0141

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"We struggled for more than 24 years for independence. We've learned the
lesson that even small people have a voice."
    -East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri, during the August 30, 2001
Constituent Assembly vote
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X,

I can attempt it if you give the necessary info to connect with.

X

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&gt; On Sunday I said I'd get a copy of the USAA/Patriot Act.  Al-awda just
&gt; emailed around a good summary, the bill itself being 273 pages long.
&gt; Unfortunately, I am not able to print emails from my computer. (GRRRR!).
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not
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...rational alternatives to what?
&gt;--- Original Message ---
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: &lt;discuss@madpeace.org&gt;
&gt;Date: 11/6/01 3:15:28 PM
&gt;

&gt;&gt; Oodles of experience with the Republican Lady from Florence
&gt;&gt; County AND Walmart!
&gt;
&gt;Ugh, please.  Kmart.  I worked for Kmart.  Like I'd ever work
for Wal-Mart -
&gt;honestly.
&gt;
&gt;Seriously, though - is any of this relevant?  I don't like war,
and I
&gt;subscribed to this list to see if there were rational alternatives
to throw
&gt;my weight behind.  If you find it is easier to attack me than
my attempts at
&gt;rational discussion, so be it.  Or if the point of this list
is simply to
&gt;agitate against war regardless of the morality or rationality
of such
&gt;activity, then I will shut up.  Just let me know.
&gt;
&gt;==========================================
&gt;X - University of Wisconsin
&gt;-&gt; Political Science - Criminal Justice
&gt;--&gt; email X
&gt;---&gt; visit X
&gt;----&gt; PGP OK! - PGP ID: 71CEEC76
&gt;------------------------------------------
&gt;"You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of
the people some
&gt;of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the
time."
&gt;- Abraham Lincoln
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;_______________________________________________
&gt;discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
&gt;http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss
&gt;
&gt;



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According to Dagsavisen, a reputable newspaper in Norway, a Norwegian
student in biochemistry was expelled from the University of Alabama due to
beeing seen as a security threat. The logic - according to the newspaper -
goes like this: (a) He is a foreigner and (b) he had access to microbes. He
was expelled five days prior to his final exam, and following three and a
half years of studies. The University of Alabama refuses to give him any
documentation on his studies there.

X

________________

Norsk student sett på som terror-risiko
Norske Kristoffer Larsgard studerte biokjemi på universitetet i Alabama. Fem
dager før han var ferdig med teorien, ble han kastet ut - fordi den
amerikanske terrorfrykten tok helt overhånd. Nå vil han saksøke
universitetet.


 ÅSNE GULLIKSTAD (EPOST)

Kristoffer Larsgard har gått til søksmål mot universitetet som kastet ham
ut - fordi han angivelig var en terrortrussel.FOTO: DAGBLADET


Saken er allerede blitt en økonomisk belastning for nordmannen, som etter
nesten tre og et halvt års studier ble kastet ut av Universitetet i South
Alabama 21. september. Bare fem dager med teori gjensto av studiet før han
var klar for et siste halvår i praksis.

     I kjølvannet av terrorangrepene i USA hevdet skolens ledelse at han
utgjorde en fare fordi han var utenlandsk student og hadde tilgang på
farlige bakterier ved laboratoriet.



- TÅPELIG SAK
     Nå har Larsgard gått til søksmål mot universitetet, som han mener ikke
har tilstrekkelig grunnlag for å kaste ham ut. Universitetet saksøkes for å
ha brutt med amerikanske sivile rettigheter, blant annet ved å
vanskeliggjøre arbeidet til Larsgards advokat.

     - Under høringen foran disiplinærkomiteen ved universitetet fikk
advokaten min ikke lov til å snakke eller krysseksaminere vitner, eller si
imot bevis eller vitneutsagn som ble framsatt fra universitetets side,
forteller Kristoffer Larsgard til Dagsavisen på telefon fra USA.
     Etter økt oppmerksomhet rundt Larsgards sak, blant annet fra
amerikanske media, har skolen trukket anklagen om at Larsgard er en
terrorfare. I stedet hevder ledelsen at nordmannen har brutt ordensregler og
at han er en generell trussel mot medstudenter.


FEILPARKERING
     - Det er snakk om småting som de har slått sammen, blant annet en
feilparkering, sier Larsgard.
     Organisasjonen for norske studenter i utlandet, ANSA, har fulgt
Larsgards sak tett siden han ble kastet ut av universitetet. President André
Nerheim har fått tilgang til dokumentasjonen som ligger til grunn for
utkastingen.
     - Dette er en tåpelig sak med alvorlige konsekvenser for Larsgard.
Skolen hevder nå at han er et disiplinærproblem, men grunnlaget for å kaste
ham ut er absolutt ikke holdbart, sier Nerheim til Dagsavisen.
     ANSA har selv vært i kontakt med universitetet uten å komme noen vei.
     - Vi stiller oss undrende til det som har skjedd, og forstår ikke
hvorfor universitetet viser en slik holdning. Det virker veldig rart med
tanke på at Larsgard hvert semester har fått brev fra universitetets
direktør hvor det står at han er en av skolens beste studenter, og at
universitetet er stolt over å ha ham som student, sier Nerheim.


DYRT
     For Larsgard betyr utkastelsen store økonomiske problemer. Selv om han
eventuelt skulle få tilbake sin studieplass, har han mistet verdifull
undervisning og gått glipp av avsluttende eksamen, som han ble nektet.
     - I tillegg har universitetet sperret mine karakterer, så jeg ikke kan
søke på andre skoler. Et nytt skoleår vil dessuten koste meg enda mer, sier
Larsgard.
     En rettssak vil tynge den norske studenten ytterligere.
     - Jeg har allerede brukt 35.000 kroner av sparepengene mine til
advokatutgifter, sier studenten.
     ANSA har vært i kontakt med både Utenriksdepartementet,
Justisdepartementet og Utdanningsdepartementet for å be om hjelp til
Larsgards sak. Ifølge NTB mener Justisdepartementet at det er lite det kan
gjøre for å endre den beslutningen som universitetet i South Alabama har
truffet.


http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/2001/11/615599.shtml



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From: madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com [mailto:madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:27 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Cc: X
Subject: [MAPC-coord] Next Coordinating Committee Meeting
Hi all!
 
The next Coordinating Committee meeting will be Sunday, November 11, at 4:00 p.m., at Memorial Union (Check TITU for room location).  I have submitted the room reservation request.
 
IMPORTANT:  If you're an Outie, and you cannot attend, please ensure that someone else from your Working Group/Caucus is at this meeting.
 
As you know, we have had to postpone a number of agenda items at each of the past two meetings.  As facilitator for the upcoming meeting, I would like to implement a few procedural changes to help us move through the agenda more quickly.  (These are largely based on a post-meeting discussion of meeting process last Sunday.)
 
FIRST:  I am asking each Outie to post his/her Working Group's or Caucus's report to the CC mailing list BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  Your report should be divided into three parts:  (1) update on the WG/C's activities; (2) requests for assistance from other WG/Cs, and (3)  proposals to be acted on by the CC or general membership.  This will enable us to read the updates ahead of time, and focus our meeting time on the requests for assistance and proposals.
 
SECOND:  Anyone with a proposal to present should write it up and send it out to the CC list, again BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  [At present, that would include Barbara's "Peace Draft" proposal, and my "MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter" proposal.]  This way, the proponent won't have to spend meeting time explaining the proposal, and we can jump right into questions and discussion.
 
THIRD:  I am recommending that we move at least one major agenda item to the beginning of the meeting, before Working Group/Caucus reports.  For this meeting, that should be "Mission &amp; Structure of the CC", which has been postponed twice.
 
Please note that the success of these measures is dependent both on everyone sending out the advance e-mail reports &amp; proposals AND on everyone reading their e-mail prior to the meeting.
 
I would also like to follow the suggestion from last meeting that we defer action on all proposals from WGs &amp; Caucus until after all WG/Cs have reported.
 
The proposed agenda for the meeting is as follows:
 
1.  Introductions &amp; Check-in
2.  Additions/amendments to agenda
3.  Approval of minutes
4.  Mission &amp; structure of CC
5.  Working Group &amp; Caucus Reports
6.   Action on Working Group/Caucus Proposals
7.  Planning for General Membership Meeting
          a.  Location
          b.  Facilitators
          c.  Agenda
          d.  Updated "welcome" sheet; other preparations
8.  Proposal:  Donation to Wil-Mar for last general membership meeting
9.  Proposal:  MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter
10.  Proposal:  Peace Draft 
11.  Adding at-large CC members
12.  Planning for Next CC Meeting
         a.  Time
          b.  Facilitator
          c.  Agenda
 
Please let me know if you have any additional items to add; I will print up an updated agenda for distriubution at the meeting.
 
Thanks,
X
 
P.S.  If you are no longer the Outie for your WG/C, please forward this e-mail to the new Outie.  Thanks.
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Hi X,
Below is some civil liberties legislation issue related info.
*********
Anyone moved to contact their Senators and Representatives regarding
the stifling provisions of the following bills and draft bills should
please do so:

Ashcroft's "Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA)"
Sen. Leahy's "Uniting and Strengthening of
     America Act (USAA)"
Rep. Smith's Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act
(PSCSEA, H.R. 2915)
Sen. Hatch's Combating Terrorism Act (CTA, amendment S.A. 1562 to
bill H.R. 2500)
Sen. Graham's Intelligence to Prevent Terrorism Act (IPTA, S.
     1448)
Sen. Gregg's draft anti-encryption legislation.
************************************************
Electronic Frontier Foundation ACTION ALERT
(Issued: Wednesday, September 27, 2001 / Deadline: Friday, October 7,
2001, unless extended)

   San Francisco, California - The Electronic Frontier Foundation
(EFF) today condemned portions of the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA)
currently under consideration in Congress which would treat all
computer trespass as terrorism (in addition to other provisions we
oppose, such as vast expansion of surveillance authority).

   "Treating low-level computer crimes as terrorist acts is not an
   appropriate response to recent events," said EFF Executive Director
   Shari Steele. "A relatively harmless online prankster should not
face
   a potential life sentence in prison."

The ATA includes provisions that dramatically increase the
penalties for acts that have no apparent relationship to terrorism.
For instance, the bill would add low-level computer intrusion,
already a crime under other laws, to the list of "federal terrorism
offenses," creating penalties of up to life imprisonment, adding broad
pre-conviction asset seizure powers and serious criminal threats to
those who "materially assist" or "harbor" individuals suspected of
causing minimal damage to networked computers.

Attorney General John Ashcroft asked Congress last week to pass the
ATA, formerly known as the Mobilization Against Terrorism Act(MATA),
with less than one week of consideration.

EFF believes the ATA would radically tip the United States system
of checks and balances, giving the government unprecedented authority
to surveil American citizens with little judicial or other oversight.

What YOU Can Do Now:
     * Contact your own legislators about the ATA/MATA and related
bills AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Call them, and fax and/or e-mail the EFF
letter below (or your own) today. Postal mail will be too slow
on this issue. Feel free to use this letter verbatim, or modify
it as you wish. Let them know that you do not believe liberty must be
sacrified for security. Please be polite and concise, but firm.  For
information on how to contact your legislators and other government
officials, see EFF's "Contacting Congress and Other Policymakers"
guide at:   http://www.eff.org/congress.html

Sample Letter:
Use this sample letter to YOUR legislators or modify it, and send
to their Washington fax and e-mail, which you can get from Project
Vote Smart:
     http://www.vote-smart.org/vote-smart/data.phtml?dtype=C&amp;style=

or the House:
     http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

and Senate:
     http://www.senate.gov/senators/index.cfm

websites.

Dear Sen./Rep. [Surname]

I write as a constituent to express my gravest concern over
aspects of the Congressional response to the tragedies of September
11.  While I share your grief and anger in no uncertain terms, I do
not believe that sacrificing essential liberties in a vain hope of
improving security is good for America or the world. Security can be
improved without privacy invasion, and we cannot win an attack on
freedom by attacking that freedom ourselves.

I urge you to work to remove from anti-terrorism bills any
provisions that call for expanded wiretap powers or online
monitoring, warrantless pen register or trap and trace authority,
censorship, restrictions on encryption, warrantless "fishing
expeditions" in student or other records, or redefinition of
minor computer crimes as terrorism. While there is be a need for a
Congressional response to terrorism, vast expansion of the powers of
law enforcement and intelligence agencies to invade privacy is not an
appropriate part of that response.

Presently these bills and draft bills include A-G Ashcroft's Anti-
Terrorism Act (ATA); Sen. Leahy's Uniting and Strengthening of
America Act (USAA); Rep. Smith's Public Safety and Cyber Security
Enhancement Act (PSCSEA, H.R. 2915); Sen. Hatch's Combating
Terrorism Act (CTA, amendment S.A. 1562 to bill H.R. 2500); and
Sen. Graham's Intelligence to Prevent Terrorism Act (IPTA, S.1448),
and Sen. Gregg's draft anti-encryption legislation.

The United States should not take steps toward becoming a police
state, or otherwise undermine our own freedom in the name of
defending that freedom from terrorist attack, or the terrorists
have already won. I also object to provisions being passed in
response to terrorism but which have nothing to do with terrorism,
such as "emergency" wiretaps against simple computer crime incidents
and the abuse of grand juries as tools for intelligence agencies, and
undermining of the very encryption that helps secure our
communications infrastructure from futher attack. This is a time for
careful consideration, not for passing legislation without debate or
careful consideration of the consequences.
*************
Our MAPC Press Release...
October 7th is the National Day of Action for Peace called by the War
Resisters League. In concert with this day, the Madison Peace Action
Coalition is organizing street theatre to call attention to impending
attempts to limit our civil liberties. The U.S. House Judiciary has already
approved restrictive legislation (H.R. 2975) and the U.S. Senate will be
acting on an even more repressive bill this coming week.
	Among the bills most troubling provisions:
q	Allow for indefinite detention of non-citizens, even if they have
successfully challenged a government effort to deport them.
q	Minimize judicial supervision of federal telephone and Internet
surveillance by law enforcement authorities.
q	Expand the ability of the government to conduct secret searches.
q	Give the Attorney General and the Secretary of State the power to
designate domestic groups as terrorist organizations.
q	Grant the FBI broad access to sensitive business records about individuals
without having to show evidence of a crime.
q	Lead to large-scale investigations of American citizens for intelligence
purposes.
	"Ten years from now, our fear is that the American public will look back to
this legislation and say, 'this is where we crossed the line to a
surveillance society,'" says Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU's
Washington National Office.
	Participants in Sundays street theatre will be demonstrating effects of
loss of civil liberties. They will have duct tape covering their mouths,
handcuffs and prison attire. They will carry signs and literature protesting
this legislation. It will move from the UW Library Mall to the Civic Center,
the Federal Courthouse, the State Capitol, and finish at the City County
Building, with signs being left at each location.
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Ok, so the news right now (1:24 Saturday morning): 100-200 troops went in
on a combat mission. Two soldiers were killed, several injured, supposedly
in a helicopter accident. (I don't think I believe that part about being a
helicopter crash)
I don't think we will see ever an invasion proper of Afghanistan. That
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call them, are not a dangerous escalation of the conflict. I mean, we all
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kill down there? I don't doubt that civilians will die in these missions.
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action, we were not very clear on what it could be because of the
unpredictability of the conflict. The fact that we are discussing whether
this is such an emergency does not mean that it is not a true emergency -
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closes, just to get a few more people. But rally is still my first choice,
just for the media exposure of our reaction to the recent developments.
Also, most people that reacted to the news yesterday were ready for a rally
at 5:00 p.m.
We need to make a decision before noon today.
Please respond with your vote by then.

thanks,
x
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I'll be able to copy it and bring copies to the coordination committee
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X

_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

also available as a 342 page .pdf



_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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he writes:
The American Public Health Association (APHA) adopted a policy statement opposing the war in Afghanistan.  Below is a copy of the press release they have put out.
This is a small but very significant victory for the emerging anti-war movement that should give us great encouragement.  The APHA is a very large organization of many kinds of health professionals who are politically very diverse.  We should try to get other professional organizations to which we belong to adopt similar positions.  We might consider a campaign to get the ASA to adopt an anti-war position.  Even if we don't win, we would be able to bring the issues before thousands of people and stimulate important debate.  We should do the same at regional or international professional associations.
I congratulate the progressive forces in the APHA for their fine work.
Please forward this press release to other lists.
X

++++++++++++++++++ Press Release follows ++++++++++++++++++++++
American Public Health Association Adopts Resolution Opposing War
(ATLANTA, October 24) - The American Public Health Association (APHA), the largest organization of public health professionals in the United States, adopted a policy statement opposing the war in Afghanistan. The resolution states in part, "The American Public Health Association declares its opposition to the military action against Afghanistan and other nations as an undertaking that runs counter to the health and well-being of our populations." The Governing Council, which is the policy-making body of the APHA, voted approval of the statement by a comfortable margin in its closing session this afternoon.
The policy statement specifically condemned "wars motivated by economic objectives, such as dominance over regions rich in petroleum reserves, as stated in [the 1999] Policy Statement ['Opposing War in the Middle East'].
"War in Central and Southwest Asia is intensifying," says Dr. Richard David, a member of the APHA Governing Council and neonatologist at Cook County Hospital in Chicago. "Many public health professionals, like others in this country, oppose this oil war. The APHA sees the health of populations - in this country and abroad - as our top priority. This resolution says the war is about territory, not terrorism. We are against it."
The public health community, many of whom aided the victims of the September 11 terrorist attacks, condemned the attacks for the staggering levels of death and human suffering they caused to civilians. Many, such as Dr. Victor Sidel, past president of the APHA and current president of the Public Health Association of New York City, see the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan as a campaign with similar effects. "Public health must oppose war because of its direct killing and maiming, because of its destruction of human welfare and the environment, and because of the legacy of violence that will produce further violence," states Dr. Sidel. "The attacks on Muslims and Arab-Americans, and on civil liberties in the United States have already been a blow to public health. Cuts in public health services while a single-minded response to bioterrorism is emphasized, will cause further deaths. Public health would instead support the rule of law, of justice, and of peace."
Many public health professionals see the war as a cause of worsening health in the United States. The billions of dollars allocated to military spending in the recent month will mean corresponding cuts in social programs such as childhood immunizations and education.
Many attendees at the APHA Annual Convention in Atlanta were glad to see the APHA addressing the public health impact of war. "The destruction of public health imfrastructure leads to many years of devastating illness in developing countries such as Afghanistan. When the U.S. bombs destroy water purification plants, they are attacking civilians. There is no military justification for that," says Dr. David Buchanan, an internist from Illinois who is attending the APHA meeting for the first time. "This resolution fits with the APHA mission of promoting health."

For more information, contact:
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Hello everyone,

Following is the text of the humanitarian resolution on Afghanistan which we
would like to propose be submitted to the Common Council.  At the Madison
Area Peace Coalition meeting earlier tonight, people felt very strongly that
this resolution should be voted on as soon as possible - at the Nov 20
Council meeting, if at all possible - since the humanitarian situation it
addresses is growing worse by the day.  Please do let me know, by e-mail or
by phone (XXX-XXXX day, XXX-XXXX night), if this can still be done.  If it's
too late for that, then we would request the resolution be introduced at the
Nov 20 meeting and voted on at the Dec 4 meeting.

I've talked directly with X, who I know is willing to co-sponsor
this, and I've heard from X that X and X are also willing to co-sponsor (and that there may be other alders willing,
too).  If someone on the Council could fill us all in on who is willing to
co-sponsor and when this can be voted on, we'll swing into action to raise
awareness and build support for it.

Thanks to everyone for your help and support, and I apologize for any
confusion in communications.

Best,
X


Title:    Humanitarian Priorities in Afghanistan

A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan, including
Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.


WHEREAS,    a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated
7.5 million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
starvation this winter; and

WHEREAS,    70 percent of these people are women and children, and the UN
estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an increase
of 100,000 over last year; and

WHEREAS,     food aid shipments have been disrupted because of U.S. bombing
in Afghanistan; and

WHEREAS,    the aid agencies active in the region, including the Nobel
laureate Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Oxfam International and the World
Food Program have stated that the U.S. food drops can not meet the
increasing and urgent need for assistance; and

WHEREAS,    Madison now participates directly and indirectly in U.S.
military efforts through many channels, including the federal taxes its
citizens pay, and through its citizens' participation in the armed forces;
and

WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council are appalled at the mass
starvation that will result from these actions to which they are a party if
the situation is not speedily addressed; and

WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council deplore the dishonor such
an outcome would be for the victims of the terrorist attacks of September
11th;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council
support a resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must now be a top priority
for U.S. policy toward Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
winter makes this difficult or impossible.  The Mayor and Madison Common
Council call on the federal government to defer to the judgement of
international aid agencies that a cessation in bombing is necessary to avoid
humanitarian disaster; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
Afghanistan's neighbors to immediately reopen their borders to allow for the
safe passage of refugees, and call on the U.S. federal government and other
members of the international community to prepare to contribute to the
economic costs incurred by the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
U.S. federal government to actively support the work of various agencies to
deliver assistance in Afghanistan, particularly through overland truck
convoys, and to support safe humanitarian access to affected populations, in
partnership with humanitarian agencies, in quantities sufficient to
alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
U.S. federal government to contribute to efforts by the international
community to provide long-term, sustainable reconstruction and development
assistance for the people of Afghanistan, including efforts to protect the
basic human rights of women and children; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on the
international community to support democratic processes in Afghanistan
leading to a government which represents all its people, including women.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council, on behalf
of the people of Madison, in solidarity with the international community and
in their capacity as citizens of the United States, urge the U.S. federal
government to put humanitarian concerns first in its policies and actions
overseas.  Furthermore, the Mayor and Madison Common Council will consider
the U.S. federal government responsible for both the direct consequences of
its military actions in Afghanistan and for unintended, indirect results of
its actions leading to humanitarian crises in Afghanistan and the
surrounding region.

____________________________________________
X

Check out these internet sites!
the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org

"... in '74, after the [Indonesian military] invasion [of East Timor] ...
we all fought together, we were united ... and I believe that if we could
unite, we can forge another kind of unity, to fight for other things, like
fight against poverty, fight against illiteracy, fight against disease,
fight against many, many other things."
-Kay Rala Xanana Gusmão


_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy

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              <text>please, read, and if you agree, sign up and foward it to your friends.


http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/port.html


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X and I have found the art hanger.  She's X, has had
experience and I'll be speaking with her tomorrow upon her return to
Madison.

Barbara

X wrote:

&gt; Needed for Dec. 2 Silent Art Auction:  One (possibly with a helper)
&gt; EXPERIENCED art hanger. The management of Mother Fools requests that
&gt; we provide someone - their staff cannot do it for us.  Someone who
&gt; has worked with hanging art by filament (fishing line?) before is
&gt; needed - it should only take about 2 hours if you know how to do it...
&gt;
&gt; thanks!
&gt; rebekah
&gt;
&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; announce@madpeace.org mailing list
&gt; http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-mapc


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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----- Original Message -----
From: " X" &lt;X&gt;
To: &lt;madatthebank@yahoogroups.com&gt;; &lt;mad_ftaa@yahoogroups.com&gt;;
&lt;pw-list@igc.topica.com&gt;
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:47 AM
Subject: Globalization Movement: Points of Clarification


&gt;
http://slash.autonomedia.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/09/2216253&amp;mode=nocomment&amp;
threshold=
&gt;
&gt; THE GLOBALIZATION MOVEMENT: SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION
&gt; By David Graeber
&gt;
&gt; A great deal of nonsense has been written about the so-called
&gt; antiglobalization movementóparticularly the more radical, direct action
&gt; end of itóand very little has been written by anyone who has spent any
&gt; time inside it. As Pierre Bourdieu recently noted, the neglect of the
&gt; movement by North American academics is nothing short of scandalous.
&gt; Academics who for years have published essays that sound like position
&gt; papers for large social movements that do not in fact exist seem seized
&gt; with confusion or worse, highminded contempt, now that real ones are
&gt; everywhere emerging. As an active participant in the movement as well
&gt; as an anthropologist, I want to provide some broad background for those
&gt; intellectuals who might be interested in taking up some of their
&gt; historical responsibilities. This essay is meant to clear away a few
&gt; misconceptions.
&gt;
&gt; The phrase "antiglobalization" movement was coined by the corporate
&gt; media, and people inside the movement, especially in the non-NGO,
&gt; direct action camp, have never felt comfortable with it. Essentially,
&gt; this is a movement against neoliberalism, and for creating new forms of
&gt; global democracy. Unfortunately, that statement is almost meaningless
&gt; in the US, since the media insist on framing such issues only in
&gt; propagandistic terms ("free trade," "free market") and the term
&gt; neoliberalism is not in general use. As a result, in meetings one often
&gt; hears people using the expressions "globalization movement" and
&gt; "antiglobalization movement" interchangeably.
&gt;
&gt;   In fact, if one takes globalization to mean the effacement of borders
&gt; and the free movement of people, possessions and ideas, then it's
&gt; pretty clear that not only is the movement a product of globalization,
&gt; but that most of the groups involved in itó particularly the most
&gt; radical onesóare in fact far more supportive of globalization in
&gt; general than supporters of the International Monetary Fund or World
&gt; Trade Organization. The real origins of the movement, for example, lie
&gt; in an international network called People's Global Action (PGA). PGA
&gt; emerged from a 1998 Zapatista encuentro in Barcelona, and its founding
&gt; members include not only anarchist groups in Spain, Britain and
&gt; Germany, but a Gandhian socialist peasant league in India, the
&gt; Argentinian teachers' union, indigenous groups such as the Maori of New
&gt; Zealand and Kuna of Ecuador, the Brazilian landless peasantsí movement
&gt; and a network made up of communities founded by escaped slaves in South
&gt; and Central America. North America was for a long time one of the few
&gt; areas that was hardly represented (except for the Canadian Postal
&gt; Workers Union, which acted as PGA's main communications hub until it
&gt; was largely replaced by the internet). It was PGA that put out the
&gt; first calls for days of action such as J18 and N30óthe latter, the
&gt; original call for direct action against the 1999 WTO meetings in
&gt; Seattle.
&gt;
&gt; Internationalism is also reflected in the movementís demands. Here one
&gt; need look only at the three great planks of the platform of the Italian
&gt; group Ya Basta! (appropriated, without acknowledgment, by Michael Hardt
&gt; and Tony Negri in their book Empire): a universally guaranteed "basic
&gt; income," a principle of global citizenship that would guarantee free
&gt; movement of people across borders, and a principle of free access to
&gt; new technologyówhich in practice would mean extreme limits on patent
&gt; rights (themselves a very insidious form of protectionism). More and
&gt; more, protesters have been trying to draw attention to the fact that
&gt; the neoliberal vision of "globalization" is pretty much limited to the
&gt; free flow of commodities, and actually increases barriers against the
&gt; flow of people, information and ideas. As we [?] often point out, the
&gt; size of the US border guard has in fact almost tripled since signing of
&gt; NAFTA. This is not really surprising, since if it were not possible to
&gt; effectively imprison the majority of people in the world in
&gt; impoverished enclaves where even existing social guarantees could be
&gt; gradually removed, there would be no incentive for companies like Nike
&gt; or The Gap to move production there to begin with. The protests in
&gt; Genoa, for example, were kicked off by a 50,000-strong march calling
&gt; for free immigration in and out of Europeóa fact that went completely
&gt; unreported by the international press, which the next day headlined
&gt; claims by George Bush and Tony Blair that protesters were calling for a
&gt; "fortress Europe."
&gt;
&gt; In striking contrast with past forms of internationalism, however, this
&gt; movement has not simply advocated exporting Western organizational
&gt; models to the rest of the world; if anything, the flow has been the
&gt; other way around. Most of the movementís techniques (consensus process,
&gt; spokescouncils, even mass nonviolent civil disobedience itself) were
&gt; first developed in the global South. In the long run, this may well
&gt; prove the most radical thing about it.
&gt;
&gt; Ever since Seattle, the international media have endlessly decried the
&gt; supposed violence of direct action. The US media invoke this term most
&gt; insistently, despite the fact that after two years of increasingly
&gt; militant protests in the US, it is still impossible to come up with a
&gt; single example of someone physically injured by a protester. I would
&gt; say that what really disturbs the powers-that-be is that they do not
&gt; know how to deal with an overtly revolutionary movement that refuses to
&gt; fall into familiar patterns of armed resistance.
&gt;
&gt; Here there is often a very conscious effort to destroy existing
&gt; paradigms. Where once it seemed that the only alternatives to marching
&gt; along with signs were either Gandhian non-violent civil disobedience or
&gt; outright insurrection, groups like the Direct Action Network, Reclaim
&gt; the Streets, Black Blocs or Ya Basta! have all, in their own ways, been
&gt; trying to map out a completely new territory in between. Theyíre
&gt; attempting to invent what many call a "new language" of protest
&gt; combining elements of what might otherwise be considered street
&gt; theater, festival and what can only be called nonviolent warfare
&gt; (nonviolent in the sense adopted by, say, Black Bloc anarchists, of
&gt; eschewing any direct physical harm to human beings). Ya Basta! for
&gt; example is famous for its tuti bianci or white overalls: elaborate
&gt; forms of padding, ranging from foam armor to inner tubes to
&gt; rubber-ducky flotation devices, helmets and their signature
&gt; chemical-proof white jumpsuits. As this nonviolent army pushes its way
&gt; through police barricades while protecting each other against injury or
&gt; arrest, the ridiculous gear seems to reduce human beings to cartoon
&gt; charactersómisshapen, ungainly but almost impossible to damage. (The
&gt; effect is only increased when lines of costumed figures attack police
&gt; with balloons and water pistols or feather dusters.) Even the most
&gt; militantósay, eco-saboteurs like the Earth Liberation
&gt; Frontóscrupulously avoid anything that would cause harm to human beings
&gt; (or for that matter, animals). It's this scrambling of conventional
&gt; categories that so throws off the forces of order and makes them
&gt; desperate to bring things back to familiar territory (simple violence):
&gt; even to the point, as in Genoa, of encouraging fascist hooligans to run
&gt; riot as an excuse to use overwhelming force.
&gt;
&gt; Actually, the Zapatistas, who inspired so much of the movement, could
&gt; themselves be considered a precedent here as well. They are about the
&gt; least violent "army" one can imagine (it is something of an open secret
&gt; that, for the last five years at least, they have not even been
&gt; carrying real guns). These new tactics are perfectly in accord with the
&gt; general anarchistic inspiration of the movement, which is less about
&gt; seizing state power than about exposing, delegitimizing and dismantling
&gt; mechanisms of rule while winning ever-larger spaces of autonomy from
&gt; it. The critical thing, though, is that all this is only possible in a
&gt; general atmosphere of peace. In fact, it seems to me that these are the
&gt; ultimate stakes of struggle at the moment: a moment that may well
&gt; determine the overall direction of the 21st century.
&gt;
&gt; It is hard to remember now that (as Eric Hobsbawm reminds us) during
&gt; the late-19th century, anarchism was the core of the revolutionary left
&gt; óthis was a time when most Marxist parties were rapidly becoming
&gt; reformist social democrats. This stituation only really changed with
&gt; World War I, and of course the Russian revolution. It was the success
&gt; of the latter, we are usually told, that led to the decline of
&gt; anarchism and catapulted Communism everywhere to the fore. But it seems
&gt; to me one could look at this another way. In the late-19th century
&gt; people honestly believed that war had been made obsolete between
&gt; industrialized powers; colonial adventures were a constant, but a war
&gt; between France and England on French or English soil seemed as
&gt; unthinkable as it would today. By 1900, even the use of passports was
&gt; considered an antiquated barbarism.
&gt;
&gt; The 20th century (which appears to have begun in 1914 and ended
&gt; sometime around 1989 or '91) was by contrast the most violent in human
&gt; history. It was a century almost entirely preoccupied with either
&gt; waging world wars or preparing for them. Hardly surprising, then, as
&gt; the ultimate measure of political effectiveness became the ability to
&gt; create and maintain huge mechanized killing machines, that anarchism
&gt; quickly came to seem irrelevant. This is, after all, the one thing that
&gt; anarchists can never, by definition, be very good at. Neither is it
&gt; surprising that Marxism (whose parties were already organized on a
&gt; command structure, and for whom the organization of huge mechanized
&gt; killing machines often proved the only thing they were particularly
&gt; good at) seemed eminently practical and realistic in comparison. And
&gt; could it really be a coincidence that the moment the cold war ended and
&gt; war between industrialized powers once again seemed unimaginable,
&gt; anarchism popped right back to where it had been at the end of the 19th
&gt; century, as an international movement at the very center of the
&gt; revolutionary left?
&gt;
&gt; If so, it becomes more clear what the ultimate stakes of the current
&gt; "anti-terrorist" mobilization are. In the short run, things look very
&gt; frightening for a movement that governments were desperately calling
&gt; terrorist even before September 11. There is little doubt that a lot of
&gt; good people are about to suffer terrible repression. But in the long
&gt; run, a return to 20th-century levels of violence is simply impossible.
&gt; The spread of nuclear weapons alone will ensure that larger and larger
&gt; portions of the globe are simply off-limits to conventional warfare.
&gt; And if war is the health of the state, the prospects for
&gt; anarchist-style organizing can only be improving.
&gt;
&gt; I can't remember how many articles I've read in the left press
&gt; asserting that the globalization movement, while tactically brilliant,
&gt; has no central theme or coherent ideology. These complaints seem to be
&gt; the left-wing equivalent of the incessant claims in the corporate media
&gt; that this is a movement made up of dumb kids touting a bundle of
&gt; completely unrelated causes. Even worse are the claimsówhich one sees
&gt; surprisingly frequently in the work of academic social theorists who
&gt; should know better, like Hardt and Negri, or Slavoj Zizekóthat the
&gt; movement is plagued by a generic opposition, rooted in bourgeois
&gt; individualism, to all forms of structure or organization. It's
&gt; distressing that, two years after Seattle, I should even have to write
&gt; this, but someone obviously should: in North America especially, this
&gt; is a movement about reinventing democracy. It is not opposed to
&gt; organization; it is about creating new forms of organization. It is not
&gt; lacking in ideology; those new forms of organization are its ideology.
&gt; It is a movement about creating and enacting horizontal networks
&gt; instead of top-down (especially, state-like, corporate or party)
&gt; structures, networks based on principles of decentralized,
&gt; nonhierarchical consensus democracy.
&gt;
&gt; Over the past 10 years in particular, activists in North America have
&gt; been putting enormous creative energy into reinventing their groups'
&gt; own internal processes to create a viable model of what functioning
&gt; direct democracy could look like, drawing particularly, as I've noted,
&gt; on examples from outside the Western tradition. The result is a rich
&gt; and growing panoply of organizational forms and instrumentsóaffinity
&gt; groups, spokescouncils, facilitation tools, break-outs, fishbowls,
&gt; blocking concerns, vibes-watchers and so onóall aimed at creating forms
&gt; of democratic process that allow initiatives to rise from below and
&gt; attain maximum effective solidarity without stifling dissenting voices,
&gt; creating leadership positions or compelling people to do anything to
&gt; which they have not freely consented. It is very much a work in
&gt; progress, and creating a culture of democracy among people who have
&gt; little experience of such things is necessarily a painful and uneven
&gt; business, butó as almost any police chief who has faced protestors on
&gt; the streets can attestódirect democracy of this sort can be remarkably
&gt; effective.
&gt;
&gt; Here I want to stress the relation of theory and practice this
&gt; organizational model entails. Perhaps the best way to start thinking
&gt; about groups like the Direct Action Network (which I've been working
&gt; with for the past two years) is to see it as the diametrical opposite
&gt; of the kind of sectarian Marxist group that has so long characterized
&gt; the revolutionary left. Where the latter puts its emphasis on achieving
&gt; a complete and correct theoretical analysis, demands ideological
&gt; uniformity and juxtaposes a vision of an egalitarian future with
&gt; extremely authoritarian forms of organization in the present, DAN
&gt; openly seeks diversity: its motto might as well be, "if you are willing
&gt; to act like an anarchist in the present, your long-term vision is
&gt; pretty much your own business." Its ideology, then, is immanent in the
&gt; antiauthoritarian principles that underlie its practice, and one of its
&gt; more explicit principles is that things should stay that way.
&gt;
&gt; There is indeed something very new here, and something potentially
&gt; extremely important. Consensus processóin which one of the basic rules
&gt; is that one always treats others' arguments as fundamentally reasonable
&gt; and principled, whatever one thinks about the person making itóin
&gt; particular creates an extremely different style of debate and argument
&gt; than the sort encouraged by majority voting, one in which the
&gt; incentives are all towards compromise and creative synthesis rather
&gt; than polarization, reduction and treating minor points of difference
&gt; like philosophical ruptures. I need hardly point out how much our
&gt; accustomed modes of academic discourse resemble the latteróor even
&gt; more, perhaps, the kind of sectarian reasoning that leads to endless
&gt; splits and fragmentation, which the ìnew new leftî (as it is sometimes
&gt; called) has so far managed almost completely to avoid. It seems to me
&gt; that in many ways the activists are way ahead of the theorists here,
&gt; and that the most challenging problem for us will be to create forms of
&gt; intellectual practice more in tune with newly emerging forms of
&gt; democratic practice, rather than with the tiresome sectarian logic
&gt; those groups have finally managed to set aside.
&gt;
&gt;
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I just received this from Colorado. see attachment.

it is a poster about the humanitarian distaster, asking us to do national
call in's on nov. 16th to get a halt to the bombing long enough to do relief
efforts.

who is working on this? can they please email me! we should do this!

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I vote for booking WilMar...  did we set the time at the last
meeting?  If not I think 6:30 would be good because people have
been accustomed to that time.
-fp-

&gt;--- Original Message ---
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Date: 10/24/01 1:17:21 PM
&gt;

&gt;
&gt;Hi folks - Here's the update on the GM 10/30.  All places have
a separate
&gt;room for childcare.  All are accessible by bus, as far as I
can tell.
&gt;
&gt;Wilmar 257-4576:  $30 per hour for two rooms.  Available all
evening.
&gt;Holds plenty of people. $25 key deposit.
&gt;
&gt;Atwood neighborhood ctr, 241-1574: $1 per person suggested.
 Holds 99
&gt;people.  Avail. Tues after 7:30, Mondays after 7, Weds after
8:30. $25 key
&gt;deposit.
&gt;
&gt;Neighborhood House, Mills/Park, 255-5337:  Upstairs room only
holds 70 - 80
&gt;people.  Gym is taken til 2002.  Said we should come see it.
 Free.
&gt;
&gt;Friends Mtg House, off Monroe St, 256-2249:  Left message.
Said "downstairs
&gt;might work".  Need more info.
&gt;
&gt;Luke House, 310 S. Ingersoll, 256-6325:  Dinner in space til
7:30.  Holds 72
&gt;people at tables.  Parking limited (no lot).  They want a pamphlet
to find
&gt;out more about us.  Told us to visit.  Ask for X.  Free.
&gt;
&gt;It appears Wilmar is the only place available before 7:30, and
one of the
&gt;few with enough space for the 100 - 140 people I've counted
at the last
&gt;meetings.  While it will probably cost $90 or so, I would suggest
this space
&gt;for Oct. 30 and we can find a different, free space in the future
if people
&gt;agree to meet later in the evening AND less people start showing
up.
&gt;
&gt;Shall I book Wilmar, or do people have other ideas?
&gt;
&gt;Peace, X
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