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Hi guys,

I see you're still at your budget meeting.  Please still email me
tonight to find out about the submittal of tthe peace/humanitarian aid
resolution which is due tomorrow at 9am and having it on the Nov. 20
meeting agenda.

Then later, tomorrow, you can tell me/us or we can start discussing the
strategy you'd like to go forward with with its passage, if there will
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Remember, X, still call me tonight (doesn't matter if the CC meeting
is over late) to let me know about what's happening tomorrow at 9am.  My
telephone # is XXX-XXXX and please leave me a message if I'm unable to
answer the phone.

Thanks--X

_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy

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X
u said:

please be consistent with your attitudes towards alienting people and
maintaining broad appeal for MAPC (something we all agree with).

To which I reply:

ok ok.  sorry I goofed up.  I nust have an issue with people dissing things
"hippie."  Sorry again.

I think I have some good points (even about the somewaht redundant use of
the word "politics" in that opening paragraph and certainly about wasting
time tonight on logo-rhea, but email's not the medium...  anyway, your
points are well taken.
X



_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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              <text>Educating the public needs to be our number one priority right now, given just how small a minority the anti-war movement is.  MAPC should be disseminating information and analysis on the widest possible basis, and using that information to help bring people into the organization and establish our identify in the community.  As X said at the student teach-in, we need to be thinking in terms of 10,000 copies of our literature, not a few hundred.
 
Following discussions with the South West Asia Information Group, I am proposing that MAPC &amp; SWAIG publish a joint monthly newsletter.
 
The newsletter would be published as an 8-page newsprint tabloid.  MAPC would be responsible for content of pages 7 and 8, plus about a quarter of page one.  SWAIG would be responsible for the remaining content.  
 
SWAIG's content would be similar to what was contained in its initial tabloid -- anslysis of the region, the war, and U.S. foreign policy.  MAPC's content would be a calendar of events, information from the various Working Groups on their upcoming activities, reports on past activities, and other content designed to motivate readers to get involved.  Solicitation of donations would also be included.
 
Approximately 10,000 copies of each issue would be published, requiring a major effort at distribution through literature tables, bundles left at stores, co-ops, etc., passing out at events or to pedestrians, and perhaps even door-to-door distribution in selected neighborhoods.
 
The printing cost for 10,000 copies of a 8-page tabloid would be approximately $500.00, using the non-union printer that SWAIG used for its tabloid.  (I would prefer to transfer the project to a union shop, preferably Port Publications in Port Washington; this may require an adjustment in either the budget or number of copies.)  This cost would be covered by MAPC.
 
I would expect that the newsletter would generate $100 to $200 per month in new donations, based on people clipping a donation request coupon.  Another option would be to sell advertisements in the newsletter to supportive businesses, co-ops, and organizations.  (SWAIG opposed this option, based on possible conflicts with the Madison Insurgent.  I will be meeting with the Insurgent collective to discuss whether they would in fact have objections to this.)
 
If finances do not permit monthly publication, Plan B would be for alternating between the tabloid and a 2-page, 8.5 by 11, smaller circulation, newsletter containing only MAPC organizational info.
 
Because MAPC's contribution to the content would reflect the activities of all of the Working Groups, I believe that the newsletter should be coordinated at the CC level.  (I ran this past O&amp;E, who agreed.)  Options for filling the newsletter editor position would include:
 
(a)  One of the existing CC members could take on this project.
 
(b)  A new at-large CC position could be created
 
(c)  A Newsletter Working Group could be created; or
 
(d)  A volunteer who is not officially on the CC. but is willing to attend CC meetings, could be located.
 
X
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Hello
I'm not sure which committee has been most active with the 11/17 action and
related things.  I got this note from Sister Mo today requesting help with
Edgewood's transportation to Ft. Benning.  It would be great if we could
either recruit more passengers or consolidate passengers so less vehicles
are required.  thanks a bunch
-X


&gt;From: "X." &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: "X(E-mail)" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Subject: SOA Vigil transportation
&gt;Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:39:31 -0600
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&gt;Dear X... Thank you for the info on the Teach-in for Peace.  I will
&gt;pass that on to key folks on our campus.
&gt;
&gt;Also, I just talked w/a woman who was at the MAPC meeting Tues. eve, and
&gt;she said she heard that there are partially empty vans which UW students
&gt;and/or MAPC members are trying to fill up for the Nov. 16-19 trip to
&gt;Columbus, GA.  As of right now, I still have 20 seats empty on our
&gt;42-passenger bus.  We cannot pay for that bus if we don't fill it.  Do
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&gt;could consolidate on this?
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&gt;Thanks much ... Sr. X


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hi folks.

i just found out i have to leave town for work on saturday morning,
and i won't get back until late on thursday night.  so, i'll have to
miss sunday's meeting.  i'll be in touch via email over most of the
week, so if folks can post minutes of the meeting to this list, that'd
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be a problem.

my apologies for not being able to attend, but a co-worker is having a
family medical emergency and i'm taking care of some responsibilities
for him so he can stay with his family.


 In solidarity,

x
International Socialist Organization
United Faculty and Academic Staff, AFT Local 223
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Dear Policy Committee,

     Due to my own error, I have so far failed utterly at getting myself on
the policy e-mail list.  However, 30 minutes ago I discovered the list
archive on the web site, and now I am up-to-date!

     Thank you for your comments!  Wonderful!

     I incorporated your suggestions.  More edits may be in order--feel free
to suggest more edits.

     After one more round, perhaps we can bring it around to alders--I'll
wait for the policy committee's OK.

     Below is the current draft.  Send me further suggestions for changes.

Best Regards,
X
x

=================================================================
A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan, including
Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.


SPONSORS:	[Alders names here.]


WHEREAS,	a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated 7.5
million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
starvation this winter; and

WHEREAS,	70 percent of these people are women and children, and the UN
estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an increase
of over 30 percent from last year; and

WHEREAS, 	food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security concerns
around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and

WHEREAS,	the aid agencies active in the region, including the Nobel laureate
Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Oxfam International and the World Food
Program have stated that the U.S. food
drops can not meet the increasing and urgent need for assistance; and

WHEREAS,	Madison now participates directly and indirectly in U.S. military
efforts through many channels, including the federal taxes its citizens pay,
and through its citizens' participation in the armed forces; and

WHEREAS,	the Mayor and Common Council are appalled at the mass starvation
that will result from these actions to which they are a party if the
situation is not speedily addressed, and also appalled at the dishonor such
an outcome would be for the victims of the terrorist attacks of September
11th;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Common Council urge a
resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must now be a top priority
for U.S. policy toward Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
winter makes this difficult or impossible; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Afghanistan's neighbors should immediately
reopen their borders to allow for the safe passage of refugees, and the
international community must be prepared to contribute to the economic costs
incurred by the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States must actively support the work
of various agencies to deliver assistance in Afghanistan, particularly
through overland truck convoys, and support safe humanitarian access to
affected populations, in partnership with humanitarian agencies in
quantities sufficient to alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe;
and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should contribute to efforts
by the international community to provide long-term, sustainable
reconstruction and development assistance for the people of Afghanistan,
including efforts to protect the basic human rights of women and children;
and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should support democratic
processes in Afghanistan leading to a government which represents all its
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How about if we have the resolution brought up at the general mtg on Tues,
10/30/?  The draft should be done by then. :) Can Policy meet at 6pm before
the mtg like last time?  It would be useful to be able to use that time.

X


-----Original Message-----
From: X
[mailto:X]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:06 AM
To: X
Subject: Re: [MAPC-policy] revised city resolution


Beautiful!  Thanks for your work on this, X.  The "Madison now
participates directly and indirectly in U.S. military efforts" is a good way
to change the wording to state why Madison has the right to comment on these
matters, while not expressing support or acceptance for the bombing.  One
more suggestion, below.

I apologize if this conversation happened at our last meeting (which I
missed) but have we discussed at all what sort of changes we'd support and
which ones we wouldn't?  For myself, I think it's important that we insist
that no language supporting the bombing be added.  There's other
possibilities we should think of as well, though they'll likely come up in
our conversations with alders.

Also, when we all agree on the wording, we should give this a run by the
whole MAPC, with an intro on why we feel the humanitarian angle is the best
and most productive one to take with the City Council.  I'm expecting we'll
hear some disappointment from people who want us to push a politically
unviable stop the bombing resolution.  But maybe I'm wrong on that (it's
happened once or twice before, you know).

-X

&gt; Dear Policy Committee,
&gt;
&gt; Due to my own error, I have so far failed utterly at getting myself on
&gt; the policy e-mail list.  However, 30 minutes ago I discovered the list
&gt; archive on the web site, and now I am up-to-date!
&gt;
&gt; Thank you for your comments!  Wonderful!
&gt;
&gt; I incorporated your suggestions.  More edits may be in order--feel free
&gt; to suggest more edits.
&gt;
&gt; After one more round, perhaps we can bring it around to alders--I'll
&gt; wait for the policy committee's OK.
&gt;
&gt; Below is the current draft.  Send me further suggestions for changes.
&gt;
&gt; Best Regards,
&gt; X
&gt;
&gt; =================================================================
&gt; A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
&gt; assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan,
including
&gt; Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; SPONSORS:    [Alders names here.]
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an
estimated
7.5
&gt; million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
&gt; starvation this winter; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    70 percent of these people are women and children, and the UN
&gt; estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an
increase
&gt; of over 30 percent from last year; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,     food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security
concerns
&gt; around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    the aid agencies active in the region, including the Nobel
laureate
&gt; Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Oxfam International and the World Food
&gt; Program have stated that the U.S. food
&gt; drops can not meet the increasing and urgent need for assistance; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    Madison now participates directly and indirectly in U.S.
military
&gt; efforts through many channels, including the federal taxes its citizens
pay,
&gt; and through its citizens' participation in the armed forces; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Common Council are appalled at the mass
starvation
&gt; that will result from these actions to which they are a party if the
&gt; situation is not speedily addressed, and also appalled at the dishonor
such
&gt; an outcome would be for the victims of the terrorist attacks of September
&gt; 11th;
&gt;
&gt; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Common Council urge a
&gt; resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must now be a top
priority
&gt; for U.S. policy toward Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
&gt; window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
&gt; winter makes this difficult or impossible; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Afghanistan's neighbors should immediately
&gt; reopen their borders to allow for the safe passage of refugees, and the
&gt; international community must be prepared to contribute to the economic
costs
&gt; incurred by the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and

* in the previous clause, I would change to "...and the U.S. and other
members of the international community must be prepared..."
Let's make the obligation of the U.S. explicit (bastards, you caused the
problem...)

&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States must actively support the
work
&gt; of various agencies to deliver assistance in Afghanistan, particularly
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&gt; affected populations, in partnership with humanitarian agencies in
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&gt; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should contribute to efforts
&gt; by the international community to provide long-term, sustainable
&gt; reconstruction and development assistance for the people of Afghanistan,
&gt; including efforts to protect the basic human rights of women and children;
&gt; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should support democratic
&gt; processes in Afghanistan leading to a government which represents all its
&gt; people, including women.
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 Broken Arrow, Oklahoma School officials removed "God
 Bless America" signs from schools in fear that someone
 might be offended.

 Channel 12 News in Long Island, New York, ordered flags
 removed from the newsroom and red, white, and blue ribbons
 removed from the lapels of reporters. Why? Management did
 not want to appear biased and felt that our nations flag
 might give the appearance that "they lean one way or another".
 Berkeley, California bans U.S. Flags from being displayed on
 city fire trucks because they didn't want to offend anyone
 in the community.

 In an "act of tolerance" the head of the public library at
 Florida Gulf Coast University ordered all "Proud To Be An
 American" signs removed so as to not offend international
 students.

 I, for one, am quite disturbed by these actions of so-called
 American citizens, and I am tired of this nation worrying
 about whether or not we are offending some individual or
 their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on September 11,
 we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of
 Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely
 settled in New York and Washington D.C. when the "politically
 correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that
 our patriotism was offending others.

 I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against
 anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. In
 fact, our country's population is almost entirely comprised of
 descendants of immigrants; however, there are a few things that
 those who have recently come to our country, and apparently
 some native Americans, need to understand.

 First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try
 not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a
 multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our
 sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have
 our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our
 own lifestyle. This culture, called the "American Way" has been
 developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by
 millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our
 forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker
 Hill, Antietam, San Juan, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, and Vietnam.

 We speak English,--not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
 Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
 become part of our society - learn our language!

 "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some
 off-the-wall, Christian, Right Wing, political slogan - it
 is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House
 of Representatives in our Capitol and it is printed on our
 currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
 women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and
 this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is
 appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our
 highest level of Government, then it is certainly appropriate
 to display it on the walls of our schools.

 God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every
 patriotic song, and in our founding documents. We honor His
 birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to
 Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then
 I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new
 home, because God is part of our culture and we are proud
 to have Him.

 We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably
 defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day,
 Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades,
 picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag. As
 an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national
 anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever
 and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or
 you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a
 move to another part of this planet.

 The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we
 are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no
 desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things
 where you came from. We are Americans, like it or not, this
 is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.

 Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express
 his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we
 will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are
 done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our
 pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly
 encourage you take advantage of one other great American
 freedom--the right to leave.

 It is time to take a stand!!!

 If you agree, pass this on to other Americans!!


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Sounds ok to me, X can you add to the agenda if not already printed?

X


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&gt;Reply-To: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] city policy resolution
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&gt;X:
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&gt;I forget whether we included a report from the Student/Youth Caucus in the
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&gt; &gt; I forgot that one too when compiling the cc agenda.  I agree with this
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&gt; &gt; &gt;Hi,
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&gt; &gt; &gt;I totally forgot that the policy committee wants something on the
&gt; &gt; &gt;"proposals" agenda:  we have a proposal that the city alders vote for a
&gt; &gt; &gt;resolution that condems bombing (in different language than that) in
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Hello, all in coordination.  Great stuff you've all been sending regarding what's going on for this week, and in general.  Exciting.  






We are going forth with the November 30th event, and I'm going to bring each committee a "to-do" item, or a few, at the meeting on Sunday.  For now, I wanted to get you a quick outline of our plan so that you have something to print or distribute on the event, so your people know what they're doing these tasks for.  Attached is the "rough" flyer we're distributing.  We will be developing a nicer one when more of the acts, etc, are firmed up.








Here is the basic plan for the event:








--set up from 5-6 at Lapham Elementary School, East Dayton Street. (1045, I believe.)




--Event from 6-9.  We are targeting families and "mainstream." the name of the event is "People for People, People for Peace."




--Main focus on the event is the gathering of items and assembly of kits for refugees fleeing Afghanistan.  We are encouraging the donation of blankets, cash, and of school supplies for the "school kit" that the MCC distributes to refugee camps.




--We will have live acoustic musical entertainment, and some kids acts --TBA.




--We will have free refreshments, donated.




--We will have booths with information and petitions, buttons for sale, canvasing materials, visuals on the refugees who we're helping.  (This is where most of your committees come in -- more info at the meeting)




--We will have mural painting, on canvas.  Any ideas for where we could display the mural after it's done?




--We will have the assembly and decoration of kit bags going on for kids to pitch in on, to engage them in helping the refugees.  We will put the school kit donated items inside...




--From 9-10:30 or so, we will have break-down and delivery of goods to a local group who will be sending items to MCC in Indiana later that week.




That's the overview.  Look forward to seeing you Sunday.




X

















You Can Help Stop Terrorism Before It Starts!

Terrorism is a tactic of desperate people.  The Taliban was born and bred in the miserable refugee camps of Pakistan.  Today 2 million more Afghanis are expected to join these camps and others like them in Iran.  Will they too live for years in poverty, lacking food, shelter, medical care, schooling and hope?  Will they become recruits for terrorism?

Please join the Madison Area Peace Coalition for their holiday season
People for People, People for Peace Event
a celebration of giving, 
Friday, November 30, 2001, 6-9 p.m.
Lapham Elementary School 

Come enjoy entertainment, refreshments, and the good spirits of giving people!  
Bring the whole family!  Lots of fun stuff and important learning opportunities for kids!

This event is free  just bring your donations for the refugees in desperate need.  We are gathering the following items to be sent to the Mennonite Central Committee, a well-respected charity that has been distributing to refugee camps for over eighty years.
Clean Blankets
Money donations, checks written to the Mennonite Central Committee
Supplies for school kits for refugee children:
#2 pencils
crayons or colored pencils
spiral notebooks, letter size
erasers
plastic rulers

A Better Kind of Holiday Shopping!
Give the Gift of Crucial Help to Desperate Refugees.

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, do you find yourself feeling less enthusiastic about buying and receiving holiday gifts?  Does watching the plight of Afghani refugees make you want to share our relative wealth with the millions of people there who are in danger of freezing and starving to death?  Come join us for this celebration of giving and help these people who are in such need.


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On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:53:59 -0500, action@madpeace.org wrote:
&gt;  I propose we just have a picket line. The following things need to &gt;  be
done:

I missed this whole conversation but I have a comment anyway.

With all due respect, the folks on the co-ordinating committee may not be
aware of this, but I would like to note that the action committee has a plan
for emergency actions, including each of us having specific jobs assigned
for every detail.

If someone unilaterally comes up with a whole new plan at the last moment,
that means starting over from scratch to (1) discuss the plan and (2) assign
people to implement it--all within a few hours. In my opinion: huge waste of
time.

If we are to have emergency actions (which I understand is an if) we need to
stick to the plan--or make a new one *in advance*--so that the only thing
left to do when the action is called, is implement it. I am not attached to
the existing plan, but whatever the plan is we shouldn't try to alter it at
the last second.

Discussion? Disagreement? Pies in the face? My intent is not to offend but
to be efficient and avoid saddling any individual with an overwhelming
burden of organizing everything.

Regarding the very concept of emergency actions, I think the AC was thinking
about events that would be so overwhelmingly dramatic/traumatic that there
would be an overwhelming desire to get out there and do something. I
definitely don't think anyone was imagining that there should be emergency
actions at every turn. Probably we should remove "invasion" from the list of
actions and stick to (1) extension of bombing to a new country, (2) murder
or arson in our community or (3) another massive violent attack on US soil
with instant mass casualties. I'm also open to dropping the whole concept.
Whatever you all think.

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I have added Norah to the coord comt mail list.

X


&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: "X" &lt;X&gt;, "X"
&gt;&lt;X&gt;, &lt;announce@madpeace.org&gt;, &lt;discuss@madpeace.org&gt;,
&gt;&lt;X&gt;, &lt;X&gt;, &lt;X&gt;,
&gt;&lt;X&gt;, &lt;X&gt;, &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Subject: [MAPC-Announce] International Committee
&gt;Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:11:05 -0600
&gt;
&gt;I apologize for the gap in time since the meeting last week - my hard drive
&gt;couldn't take the volume of emails since 911 and bombed itself back to the
&gt;stone age.  Several things are irretrievable, including a couple of email
&gt;addresses given to me after the Tuesday 10/27 general meeting.  I am sorry
&gt;if I am missing some folks.
&gt;
&gt;The International Committee (name in process) was formed at the October 27
&gt;general meeting.  the focus of the group will be to bring Central Asian
&gt;voices to the Madison area, coordinate humanitarian aid, coordinate local
&gt;participation in international days of action, provide a liaison to
&gt;national/international organizing efforts, track international response to
&gt;US actions,  communicate an American viewpoint different from the official
&gt;government/corporate/media response, and to promote international solutions
&gt;for international problems.
&gt;
&gt;That's ambitious, and we need your help.
&gt;
&gt;Please e-mail me at X if you are interested in joining
&gt;this committee.  We are considering an alternate Tuesday meeting time, in
&gt;the weeks when MAPC is not meeting.  Is this a good time for you who are
&gt;interested?
&gt;
&gt;We are looking forward to a lot of exciting projects.
&gt;
&gt;Peace,
&gt;
&gt;X
&gt;
&gt;
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              <text>IN THIS MESSAGE: The Liberty for US War Criminals Act; Pakistan Panics Over Threat to Arsenal; The War We Cannot Win; War on Terror Becomes War on Afghanistan
http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/558/4war1.htm
Al-Ahram Weekly Online        Issue No.558              1 - 7 November 2001
Alienable Rights
     The American Service-members Protection Act (ASPA) authorises 
     the US to use force to "liberate" any US or allied persons detained on 
     behalf of the proposed International Criminal Court (ICC), which will
be 
     based in The Hague, Netherlands.
     By Amira Howeidy 
 We all knew it was coming. Last Friday, US President George W Bush signed
an anti-terrorism bill that proposes sweeping new powers for the FBI,
extending the agency's ability to search citizens, wire-tap telephone lines
and eavesdrop on the Internet. The period of detention allowed for a foreign
citizen suspected of terrorist activities has also be increased. The bill --
which has raised concerns over the meaning of civil liberties in the post 11
September age -- came as no surprise to rights advocates in the US and
elsewhere. 
The US-led alliance's "war on terrorism," now in the fourth week of its
offensive against Afghanistan, bypassed internationally-recognised channels
of legitimacy such as the United Nations and its Security Council. The
result: hundreds or perhaps thousands of Afghan civilians may have been
killed (no accurate numbers have been released because the Pentagon says it
still doesn't know). But the "war on terror" has meant more than the loss of
innocent lives: it has included a myriad of other measures. The blocking of
information and images from the war in Afghanistan from reaching the
American public, for example. There has also been widespread discrimination
against Arabs (and other people of Middle Eastern appearance) both by
officials (at Western airports and airlines) and by the Western public.
Approximately 900 "suspects" -- most of whom are Arabs-- have been arrested
in relation to the 11 September attacks. In the struggle against "terror,"
several laws have been bypassed, leading to what civil liberties advocates
have described as a serious threat to human rights. 
The media debate on the choice between "freedom" and "security" -- which is
raging in Germany and elsewhere -- reflects the chilling options now facing
Western societies. But has the choice been made already? 
FBI and Justice Department investigators, frustrated by their failure to
extract confessions from four suspects, are contemplating resorting to
"pressure" according to a report in the Washington Post on 21 October. Among
the alternative strategies under discussion are extracting information using
drugs or other pressure tactics, such as those occasionally employed by
Israeli interrogators, according to the article. Another idea is to
extradite suspected terrorists to US-allied countries in which security
services can employ threats to family members or resort to torture. And last
Sunday, the same newspaper reported that the CIA is contemplating pursuing
an assassination policy of individuals -- a policy that could extend beyond
Bin Laden and members of Al-Qa'ida. 
Meanwhile, the US State Department -- taking advantage of the frenzy and
confusion that followed the terrorist acts -- endorsed the American
Service-members Protection Act (ASPA) on November 5. The legislation
authorises the US to use force to "liberate" any US or allied persons
detained on behalf of the proposed International Criminal Court (ICC), which
will be based in The Hague, Netherlands. It also prohibits US military
assistance to those states that ratify the ICC treaty except for NATO
members and some major non-NATO allies. 
The New York based Human Rights Watch described the new law as an attempt to
undermine the establishment of a permanent war crimes court. "The United
States is forging a global coalition against terrorism, and the State
Department has just endorsed a bill that authorises an invasion of the
Netherlands," said Richard Dicker, director of the International Justice
Programme at HRW. "This makes no sense. It hardly seems like a good moment
for the US to be threatening sanctions against dozens of countries simply
because they want to bring to justice the perpetrators of crimes against
humanity." 
For many, it is difficult to find any sense in this new reality. The US
Coalition's use of force, for example, appears to be contrary to established
international law. 
This is the case according to William Schabas, director of the Irish Centre
for Human Rights. "The use of force is prohibited by the United Nations
Charter (art. 2 (4)), except in two circumstances: self defence (art. 51)
and Security Council action under Chapter VII (art. 42)," says Schabas. "It
does not allow the use of force for the purpose of "retaliation." Schabas
told Al- Ahram Weekly that "the US-led alliance seems to find support for
its action by invoking the right of self-defence rather than the right to
retaliate. This is a broad and exaggerated interpretation of the right of
self-defence." 
Normally, he argued, a person (or a state) acting in genuine self-defence is
very clear in explaining and justifying its behaviour on this basis. "But
the US and UK, with their talk of retaliation, reprisal, 'bringing
terrorists to justice' and so on, invoke grounds that are not really
compatible with the concept of self-defence." 
Schabas acknowledged that the US does enjoy self-defence rights but pointed
out that its actions must be conditioned by "proportionality" and by what is
necessary to protect itself from attack. In his words, "the US seems to be
taking a view that in the name of the war on terrorism it has the right to
attack (or 'counterattack') any country it suspects of being insufficiently
unsympathetic to terrorism. In effect, this is the legal window dressing of
the pax Americana, a justification to attack any country that the US doesn't
like, and at any time." To Schabas, one of the unfortunate consequences of
all of this is the "marginalisation of the United Nations, which should in
fact be taking the lead according to its noble role under the UN Charter." 
Perhaps it was with this super-power mentality in mind that the US Congress
adopted the anti- terrorism bill. According to the American Civil Liberties
Union Freedom Network (ACLU), "the bill was adopted in near record time with
only one public hearing and little debate." 
"All this will have terrible repercussions," was the response of
International Law Professor Kamal Abul-Magd. "If the law doesn't give you
protection, you are more likely to take the law in your hands." 
To observers in the Middle East, the new US laws seem to be a glaring
paradox. In this part of the world, the anti-terrorism bill sounded like
all- too-familiar a tune. "It's almost identical to the 'emergency laws'
faithfully adopted by Third World regimes," says Dawoud Al-Shoryan, a
columnist for the London-based Arabic daily Al- Hayat. For many years, the
US State Department's Human Rights desk has itself issued annual reports
clearly condemning such governments and their "freedom tying" policies,
human rights abuses and violations in the name of the emergency law. To
El-Shoryan and many others, it seems like the US is now taking such
"backward regimes" as their role model. He expressed fear that the American
"emergency law" will eventually "become an incubator that will lead to
similar laws being issued in several other countries, if Washington seeks to
extend its application within its anti-terrorism coalition." 
It may not be all doom and gloom, however. After all, says Rights Activist
Gasser Abdel- Razek, a stronger global movement seems to be emerging as a
result of the September 11 attacks. "It will take different forms,
understandably, such as anti-war, human rights, environmental, and
anti-globalisation," said Abdel-Razek. "But it will definitely be more
critical of Western (that is, US) hegemony, even if its supporters don't
call it that." 
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The Sunday Times (London)                                November 4, 2001 
Pakistan panics over threat to arsenal
     By Tony Allen-Mills Washington
Fears of fundamentalist upheaval in Pakistan have aroused concerns in
Washington that part or all of Islamabad's arsenal of nuclear weapons may
have to be moved to China for safekeeping from foreign attack.
Pakistan's military establishment was said last week to have been shaken by
reports that America, India or Israel might be planning pre-emptive strikes
on nuclear sites to prevent weapons falling into fundamentalist hands. "The
generals are panic-stricken," said one Pakistani source.
The threat to weapons widely regarded as the Pakistan military's "crown
jewels" has forced Islamabad to consider what one American expert described
as the "ultimate worst-case scenario" of removing warheads to China,
Pakistan's closest strategic ally in the region. The prospect that loose
warheads might be loaded onto helicopters or moved around a region foaming
with fundamentalist turmoil is adding to fears in Washington that the war in
Afghanistan might provoke a nuclear crisis.
Abdul Sattar, the Pakistani foreign minister, insisted last week the arsenal
was secure. But Washington officials have expressed mounting alarm that any
coup attempt against General Pervez Musharraf, the military president, might
put Pakistan's nuclear arsenal at risk.
Pakistani generals were appalled by one authoritative American report last
week that an elite Pentagon undercover unit, trained to disarm nuclear
weapons, was exploring plans for a mission inside Pakistan. "Every paranoid
fear they have had over the past 20 years about people coming to get our
missiles is suddenly coming to the fore," said Zia Mian, a Pakistani
physicist and authority on the nuclear programme.
China's nuclear relations with Pakistan have long been the focus of
controversy. Chinese scientists are believed to have played a key role in
developing Pakistan's nuclear programme in the early 1980s. The two
countries share a mistrust of India, which has also developed nuclear
weapons.
In the 1990s relations between Beijing and Washington were strained when
American officials discovered that China had supplied Islamabad with
magnetic components for a centrifuge used in enriching uranium, a material
used in warheads. US experts believe that Pakistan possesses between 30 and
50 warheads. Islamabad has also developed facilities for making
weapons-grade plutonium.
The precise locations of Pakistan's nuclear weapons are highly secret.
Several Washington sources said last week that senior Pakistani officers had
been forced to consider a range of scenarios, from thefts of weapon
materials to US bombing raids on nuclear facilities. The arrest in Pakistan
of three nuclear scientists with alleged Taliban sympathies heightened
concern that bomb-making secrets may have leaked to Afghanistan.
But even under extreme duress, several US sources said, many elements of the
Pakistani military would resist surrendering custody of their warheads to
China.
The risks of any deal with China are obvious. China is certain to be deeply
wary of being linked to fundamentalist conflict. Yet American experts
believe that Beijing represents the only haven that Pakistan would dare to
trust.
In a bid to defuse concern, US officials are understood to have offered
Pakistan high-tech assistance to improve the security of missile vaults and
update both command and control communications, and the multiple-code
custody arrangements that theoretically prevent rogue missile launches.
The issue was discussed by General Colin Powell, the US secretary of state,
during his recent visit to Pakistan. A State Department official said last
week Washington was "confident that Pakistan is taking steps to assure the
safety of these (nuclear) assets".
But other American sources said Pakistan was reluctant to accept US
technology for fear that it might be bugged by the CIA in order to establish
the whereabouts of warheads.
The threat that Osama Bin Laden may acquire nuclear bomb-making materials is
weighing heavily on American officials.
"Nobody in the Bush administration wants to be held responsible if Al-Qaeda
gets a nuke," said George Perkovich, an Asian nuclear programme expert, who
has urged the State Department to include China in talks on Pakistan's
nuclear problems. "They are working their asses off on this," he said. 
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/652509.asp#BODY
November 5, 2001
Priority: Pakistan's Nukes
     If Taliban sympathizers overthrow Pervez Musharraf's regime, 
     U.S. Marines are standing by to move in
     By John Barry, Newsweek International
Nov. 12 issue - The 2,200 troops of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit are
cooped up on the assault ship USS Peleliu, presumably itching for action. If
they ever go ashore, it's as likely to be in Pakistan as Afghanistan. Given
serious trouble in Pakistan - if, say, President Pervez Musharraf were
overthrown by forces friendly to the Taliban and Osama bin Laden - the
Marines would be charged with protecting and evacuating Americans and other
Westerners. But sources have told Newsweek the Marines could also be sent on
a more momentous and desperate mission: safeguarding Pakistanís nuclear
weapons and materials, to keep them away from bin Laden.
Whether the Marines would actually be needed for such a task, and whether
they could pull it off, remains unclear. Sources say Musharraf has
strengthened security at Pakistanís nuclear facilities since September 11.
Last week his foreign minister, Abdul Sattar, insisted the nukes were "under
foolproof custodial controls." Musharraf also has purged Taliban
sympathizers from the top ranks of the military and his intelligence agency.
But recently the military regime had to detain two scientists who played key
roles in the development of Pakistan's nuclear weapons - and turned out to
be Taliban supporters. The two men, Bashir ud Din Mahmoud and Chowdhury
Mohammed Amjad, retired after Pakistan's nuclear test in 1998 and founded an
Afghan relief organization. What they could offer bin Laden, in theory, is
inside knowledge of the Pakistani nuclear program - security procedures, the
number and location of warheads and the names of current staff members who
might be sympathetic to Al Qaeda.
By one estimate, Pakistan has enough nuclear material to make 30 to 50 bombs
or warheads. How many have actually been made isn't known, but even
unassembled parts could be dangerous. A "radiological weapon" - a
conventional explosive device used to scatter radioactive particles - would
be nearly as devastating as an actual nuclear bomb, producing fallout that
could render an American city uninhabitable for years. The material could
come from a weapons program or a civilian facility, such as a nuclear power
plant. Pakistan's nuclear weapons are dispersed across several secret
locations, and some elements of the armed forces surely would resist any
attempt by foreigners to take control of them. But if it comes to that, a
shootout with Pakistan might be preferable to nuclear terrorism in the
United States.
With Tony Clifton, Ron Moreau and Zahid Hussain in Islamabad 
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Published on Saturday, November 3, 2001 in the International Herald Tribune 
The War on Terror Turns Into War on Afghanistan 
by William Pfaff
PARIS -- What set out to be an American war on terrorism has become a war against Afghanistan. The substitution of Afghanistan for terrorism, or the identification of the one with the other, is not only unjust but diverts U.S. policy from where it was intended to go, to where it is the most simple to go. Afghanistan has been substituted for terrorism because Afghanistan is accessible to military power, and terrorism is not. The employment of high-tech munitions against irrelevant targets is a distraction from measures that actually deal with the threat. "War" is feasible against Qaida, the clandestine association of like-minded Muslim fundamentalists led by Osama bin Laden, because it is a matter of police and intelligence work. Remarkable progress has been made during the last four weeks, thanks to unprecedented international cooperation. However, Qaida is not identical with terrorism. Nor is bin Laden himself, even though Washington has cast him as the personification of evil. Terrorism is simply a form of violent political action, with political motives and objectives, and it is a recurrent phenomenon in history. Washington's inability to track down and seize or kill bin Laden is why the Taliban government has been substituted as America's enemy. The Kabul government's defiance is in turn responsible for the situation of frustration in which the United States finds itself, and which threatens to prove a damaging setback in more than one respect. Fear of American air attacks have provoked a huge exodus of refugees from Afghanistan. The country is already suffering the consequences of a drought that has crippled its agriculture. The attacks themselves have made it all but impossible for relief agencies to go into the country. Misdirected bombings that have twice hit International Red Cross relief depots add to the misery the United States is inflicting upon these people, and for which international opinion holds it responsible. The utility of the bombings is hard to defend. It was believed able to bring down the Taliban government, but that is not happening. There is no reason whatever to expect more bombs to make the Taliban authorities hand over bin Laden. The administration itself lacks confidence that an eventual ground expedition will seize him; Afghanistan is not Panama. The original plan depended less on bombing than on organization of the existing military and political opposition; cutting off the support Pakistan was giving to the regime; and enlistment of the country's other neighbors, including Iran, all with ethnic or religious clients inside Afghanistan. The authority of the former king and the United Nations was to underwrite a new coalition government. This plan has suffered a series of setbacks, and official Washington is rapidly losing interest in political solutions. There is an increasing disposition toward brute force, and the use of whatever allies are at hand, even if that threatens to leave Afghanistan in chaos, and the war on terrorism stranded. One might think it sensible to change a policy that is failing, but that is not the case in a government whose primordial motivation is to appease Congress and the media. Although bin Laden has not been found, operations against Qaida seem to be going well. An extensive apparatus for tracking terrorist communications, organizations and funding is being put into place. The United States and its allies could take advantage of these successes, and of the arrival of Ramadan and Afghanistan's harsh winter to suspend the bombings. The situation in Afghanistan and among Washington's Muslim allies could be allowed to evolve over the winter months. The result might prove constructive. Washington might take the time to reflect on its responsibility, which is to deal intelligently with the terrorist threat to the United States. Bin Laden and his group are merely instances of that threat. If he is killed, he will be replaced. The causes of terrorism will remain, and they are political. Afghanistan and its people are no threat to the United States, but they are th
e ones taking the full weight of America's indignation. The administration's priorities are upside-down. Los Angeles Times Syndicate. 
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hi coordination folks.  my apologies for not being able to attend
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i haven't seen any minutes posted on the madpeace site....  what did i
miss?  thanks,

-X

_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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Folks,
   Initial indications are that the progressive caucus thought the milder
form of our resolution was still too controversial for them to support.
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tonight, find out more, and work with X on this.
   We may need to submit the text as-is by this Thursday, and hope for at
least a debate on 11/20, even if we can't get anyone else to support it.

Peace,
X

_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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I remember it well.
The time was Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 03:24:52PM -0600, and Sarah Coyle
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&gt; I think we need to meet, and really nail down the language on both
versions,
&gt; then organize a coherent strategy, and take it from there.  I'd like to
&gt; suggest we meet on Sunday evening.  We could meet at the Union at 6:30 - I
&gt; suggest that b/c BV and I will be there already after the coordinating
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That time works for me.


X

_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy

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Please, if you're going to the Peace Parade up at MATC/Truax tomorrow
and you have room in your vehicle,  take a moment to stop by either the
Memorial Union on Langdon and/or the Willy Co-op to see if there are any
people who need rides.  The coalition has suggested that those needing
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vehicles can get a ride.  So please, if you're driving, pick someone up.

Thanks!
-AR
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