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Hi Frank - please add the donation to Wilmar for our meeting there.  Also,
as I only have email at work, I am asking for reports to be posted by Friday
afternoon (if possible).  Thanks.

Sarah



-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:10 PM
To: Coordination@madpeace.org
Cc: X
Subject: [MAPC-coord] Coordinating Committee Meeting 11/18/01


Hi all!

If this email looks familiar it is because I am trying to help put together
a coord comm meeting as well organized as the one Gillam facilitated last
week.

The next Coordinating Committee meeting will be Sunday, November 18, at 4:00
p.m., at Memorial Union (Check TITU for room location).  I have NOT
submitted the room reservation request.  I understand from the minutes that
Derek has this covered.

IMPORTANT:  If you're an Outie, and you cannot attend, please ensure that
someone else from your Working Group/Caucus is at this meeting.

As you know, we continually postpone agenda items at our meetings.  As
facilitator for the upcoming meeting, I would like to help us move through
the agenda more quickly.

FIRST:  I am asking each Outie to post his/her Working Group's or Caucus's
report to the CC mailing list BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  Your report should be
divided into three parts:  (1) update on the WG/C's activities; (2) requests
for assistance from other WG/Cs, and (3)  proposals to be acted on by the CC
or general membership.  This will enable us to read the updates ahead of
time, and focus our meeting time on the requests for assistance and
proposals.

SECOND:  Anyone with a proposal to present should write it up and send it
out to the CC list, again BY FRIDAY NIGHT.  This way, the proponent won't
have to spend meeting time explaining the proposal, and we can jump right
into questions and discussion.

Please note that the success of these measures is dependent both on everyone
sending out the advance e-mail reports &amp; proposals AND on everyone reading
their e-mail prior to the meeting.

I would also like to follow the suggestion that we defer action on all
proposals from WGs &amp; Caucus until after all WG/Cs have reported.

The proposed agenda for the meeting is as follows:

1.  Introductions &amp; Check-in
2.  Additions/amendments to agenda
3.  Approval of minutes

4.  Working Group &amp; Caucus Reports
5.  Action on Working Group/Caucus Proposals
Old Business:
6.  Proposal:  MAPC/SWAIG Newsletter
7.  Proposal:  Peace Draft
8.  Adding at-large CC members
New Business:

Please let me know if you have any additional items to add; I will print up
an updated agenda for distribution at the meeting.

Thanks,
X
P.S.  If you are no longer the Outie for your WG/C, please forward this
e-mail to the new Outie.  Thanks.


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc


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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Ted M wrote:

&gt; &gt; I give up... what are the last four words?
&gt;
&gt; "He loved Big Brother."
&gt;
&gt; Did I see somewhere that Madison was considering a city-wide reading of a
&gt; particular book like Chicago just did so successfully with To Kill a
&gt; Mockingbird?  1984 would be a superb book for such a citywide readathon.

I think this is a fantastic idea!

X


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Perhaps Sarah can set up a meeting for us with X's office, using this
information X gave me.  (Sarah:  X seems to know X's last name.)

====================================================================
X was pretty clear that she wanted us to work directly with her D.C.
staff in order to have the most effect.  I wrote X to ask for a face to
face meeting and talked to him, but haven't done anything since.

I think that, if you want to meet with X, you need to contact her office
and set something up.  It would probably be a good idea to mention to X
that you're calling yourself because I'm no longer participating in MAPC.

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2 important items we missed -

1) Need to book room for next cc meeting.
2) Need to select facilitator for next cc meeting, who will put the draft
agenda together.  Trying to remember who has done this aleady - X,
X, X, me.

Volunteers for the above, anyone??

I'm thinking I'll wait until after the GM meeting to post our notes, so the
proposal votes can occur uninfluenced by our discussions.  Also, it will
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reads about it online.  Otherwise, X's notes look pretty good to go to
me, shouldn't need much editing.

peace, X
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Good news - the progressives think they could support the resolution AFTER
Thanksgiving.  They don't want to act on anything yet, since they said the
struggle to change "prayers" to "sympathies" last time was very "divisive."
The two-pronged approach doesn't look too promising in this environment.
They want the weakest version we presented.  Still, we'll try to submit the
text publicly to the Council as soon as possible.  Debate will probably be
on 12/4.

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Hi X!
I'm glad the faux Dalai Lama piece struck a chord with you too.


I think we will be walking on eggs as we try to keep a coalition
of people who are against the war together with activists who
have a lot axes to grind, and most of whom aren't particularly
pacifist in their outlook.

Which dovetails nicely into what I think about X...

"The Left" accumulates a lot of alienated and somewhat disfunctional
people, people with behavioral difficulties whose alienation
from the mainstream attracts them to the anti-mainstream culture
of the left.  Many of these people are exceptionally bright,
if poorly socialized.  When they turn the bright light of their
intellect upon a situation, the truth is revealed to them and,
from that moment forward, the perspectives of others are simply
not as important as the perspective they own. Perhaps X's
agenda is self aggrandizement, or perhaps he has a political
ax to grind, or maybe he is just rude and obnoxious. Regardless,
he is on your committee so your challenge seems to be to work
with him, work through him or work around him to make the policy
committee be the best it can be.

I think if someone volunteers for an important assignment (like
contacting the Congressman) and they don't follow through or
are unsuccessful, then the committee needs to support them and
gently spread the responsibility out for getting it done.

I guess even if he is an asshole we should treat him like we'd
want to be treated.  The dilemma is, how do we remove him as
a roadblock and still be kind?  No easy answer.

I think you should advertise the next meeting of the policy committee
on the MAPC mail list and try to attract a larger number of people
so X's BS can be diffused.  What do you think?
X

&gt;--- Original Message ---
&gt;From: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;To: "X" &lt;X&gt;
&gt;Date: 10/11/01 9:36:16 AM
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Hi X - Just wanted to say thanks for the Dalai Lama piece
- I don't care
&gt;who wrote it, it was exactly what I needed to read today. It
really echoes
&gt;my own beliefs.  I found it really supportive to receive it.
&gt;
&gt;BTW, that guy X showed up unexpectedly at the Kohl meeting
(missing our
&gt;45 minute preparation mtg beforehand).  He also sent out a snide
response to
&gt;my email in which I expressed a sense of urgency to set up the
X and
&gt;X meetings.  (He volunteered to set up the X meeting
and has
&gt;not yet done so).  I really feel like it is more important to
him to attack
&gt;me, than to be a productive committee.  This is very strange
for me, in that
&gt;I have never encountered this kind of treatment from anyone
before (maybe I
&gt;am lucky) - but feels very hurtful and difficult.  I have heard
from
&gt;numerous people that he is an "asshole", but nonetheless I am
really not
&gt;sure how to handle his attacks.  Any suggestions?
&gt;
&gt;Keep the faith!
&gt;
&gt;X &gt;
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              <text> Dear friend of AIVF:

 It's hard to avoid hyperbole, but I thought it was important to try. You may
 know that the AIVF offices are just eleven blocks north of the World Trade
 Center. Our offices and staff are unharmed. However, we fear that over the
 days to come we will learn that many of our colleagues are not.

 The area is cordoned off, and AIVF offices will remain closed through this
 week. I know you will understand if events are suspended and the next few
 issues of The Independent come out a little late. We are not yet sure when
 we will be able to reopen.

 Meanwhile, I encourage you -- as citizens who support independent media and
 hope for responsible reporting of events -- to contact your local news
 outlets to commend their coverage if you feel it merits such praise. Or, if
 warranted, to urge news outlets to tone down the bellicose tone of their
 coverage: it hurts their credibility, and only fans the flames of anger and
 hate. Likewise, we encourage you to do whatever you can in your community to
 encourage tolerance and diffuse racial tensions that may escalate.

 This was a tragic, barbaric act. However, the tragedy will be multiplied if
 we as a nation react in kind. If this crime incites individuals, and indeed
 our nation, to commit further acts of aggression against innocent people,
 then the criminals who have perpetrated this heinous act have achieved a
 measure of success.

 We know that Americans are grieved and outraged. We pray that they will find
 constructive channels of response.

 With our best wishes,
 x

 *****
x
 executive director, AIVF/FIVF
 publisher, THE INDEPENDENT

 support the organization that supports you!
 http://www.aivf.org



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Hi,
   I introduced the resolution that Diane sent last night. It should come
before
the council on this coming Tuesday, before Thanksgiving.
X

X wrote:

&gt; Hello everyone,
&gt;
&gt; Following is the text of the humanitarian resolution on Afghanistan which
we
&gt; would like to propose be submitted to the Common Council.  At the Madison
&gt; Area Peace Coalition meeting earlier tonight, people felt very strongly
that
&gt; this resolution should be voted on as soon as possible - at the Nov 20
&gt; Council meeting, if at all possible - since the humanitarian situation it
&gt; addresses is growing worse by the day.  Please do let me know, by e-mail
or
&gt; by phone (XXX-XXXX day, XXX-XXXX night), if this can still be done.  If
it's
&gt; too late for that, then we would request the resolution be introduced at
the
&gt; Nov 20 meeting and voted on at the Dec 4 meeting.
&gt;
&gt; I've talked directly with X, who I know is willing to co-sponsor
&gt; this, and I've heard from X that X and X
&gt; are also willing to co-sponsor (and that there may be other alders
willing,
&gt; too).  If someone on the Council could fill us all in on who is willing to
&gt; co-sponsor and when this can be voted on, we'll swing into action to raise
&gt; awareness and build support for it.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks to everyone for your help and support, and I apologize for any
&gt; confusion in communications.
&gt;
&gt; Best,
&gt; X
&gt;
&gt; Title:    Humanitarian Priorities in Afghanistan
&gt;
&gt; A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
&gt; assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan,
including
&gt; Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an
estimated
&gt; 7.5 million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or
outright
&gt; starvation this winter; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    70 percent of these people are women and children, and the UN
&gt; estimates 400,000 children under five will likely die this year, an
increase
&gt; of 100,000 over last year; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,     food aid shipments have been disrupted because of U.S.
bombing
&gt; in Afghanistan; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    the aid agencies active in the region, including the Nobel
&gt; laureate Doctors Without Borders (MSF), Oxfam International and the World
&gt; Food Program have stated that the U.S. food drops can not meet the
&gt; increasing and urgent need for assistance; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    Madison now participates directly and indirectly in U.S.
&gt; military efforts through many channels, including the federal taxes its
&gt; citizens pay, and through its citizens' participation in the armed forces;
&gt; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council are appalled at the mass
&gt; starvation that will result from these actions to which they are a party
if
&gt; the situation is not speedily addressed; and
&gt;
&gt; WHEREAS,    the Mayor and Madison Common Council deplore the dishonor such
&gt; an outcome would be for the victims of the terrorist attacks of September
&gt; 11th;
&gt;
&gt; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council
&gt; support a resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must now be a top
priority
&gt; for U.S. policy toward Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
&gt; window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
&gt; winter makes this difficult or impossible.  The Mayor and Madison Common
&gt; Council call on the federal government to defer to the judgement of
&gt; international aid agencies that a cessation in bombing is necessary to
avoid
&gt; humanitarian disaster; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
&gt; Afghanistan's neighbors to immediately reopen their borders to allow for
the
&gt; safe passage of refugees, and call on the U.S. federal government and
other
&gt; members of the international community to prepare to contribute to the
&gt; economic costs incurred by the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
the
&gt; U.S. federal government to actively support the work of various agencies
to
&gt; deliver assistance in Afghanistan, particularly through overland truck
&gt; convoys, and to support safe humanitarian access to affected populations,
in
&gt; partnership with humanitarian agencies, in quantities sufficient to
&gt; alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
the
&gt; U.S. federal government to contribute to efforts by the international
&gt; community to provide long-term, sustainable reconstruction and development
&gt; assistance for the people of Afghanistan, including efforts to protect the
&gt; basic human rights of women and children; and
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council call on
the
&gt; international community to support democratic processes in Afghanistan
&gt; leading to a government which represents all its people, including women.
&gt;
&gt; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Madison Common Council, on
behalf
&gt; of the people of Madison, in solidarity with the international community
and
&gt; in their capacity as citizens of the United States, urge the U.S. federal
&gt; government to put humanitarian concerns first in its policies and actions
&gt; overseas.  Furthermore, the Mayor and Madison Common Council will consider
&gt; the U.S. federal government responsible for both the direct consequences
of
&gt; its military actions in Afghanistan and for unintended, indirect results
of
&gt; its actions leading to humanitarian crises in Afghanistan and the
&gt; surrounding region.
&gt;
&gt; ____________________________________________
X
&gt;
&gt; Check out these internet sites!
&gt; the East Timor Action Network/US      http://www.etan.org
&gt; Madison, WI - East Timor projects     http://www.aideasttimor.org
&gt; Madison's Social Justice Center       http://www.socialjusticecenter.org
&gt;
&gt; "... in '74, after the [Indonesian military] invasion [of East Timor] ...
&gt; we all fought together, we were united ... and I believe that if we could
&gt; unite, we can forge another kind of unity, to fight for other things, like
&gt; fight against poverty, fight against illiteracy, fight against disease,
&gt; fight against many, many other things."
&gt; -Kay Rala Xanana Gusmão


_______________________________________________
policy@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-policy


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Hello all,

As you may already know, I am stepping down as Education/Outreach Outie.  I
have been in denial about my returned status as a student and I am
stretching myself thin with everything that I wish to accomplish, but my
education must come first at this point.  I believe that it would be best
for someone to take this position that has the time to focus on it as is
needed.  And....we have someone who has decided to do just that.  Her name
is X.  Her e-mail is X.  

Does she have to manually be put on the coordination e-mail list?  If so,
please do that.  I am pretty sure I can remove myself.  She is aware of the
meeting this Sunday.  I'll continue to forward her pertinent e-mails from
cc until I am sure she is getting them.  Thanks all.  Take care,

X


_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-cc

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000085915oct28.story

On Campus and Off, Antiwar Movements See New Vigor
Reaction: Opposition to military action builds with a more polite,
thoughtful
approach than in days of Vietnam.

By ELIZABETH MEHREN
TIMES STAFF WRITER

October 28 2001

AMHERST, Mass. -- As never before, their dance cards are full.

Scholars of peace and diplomacy say that with little effort--and no
exaggeration--they could schedule three speaking engagements per night.
Elder
statesmen of this country's antiwar movement report a similar surge in
demand
since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Academics who study terrorism or the
Middle East are taking part in teach-ins that generally are packed.

Off campus, the voices of nonviolence are heard in such places as Worcester,
a
working-class city where a weekly vigil during rush hour draws cheers from
passersby. And in Northampton, where a draft counseling center has
opened--even
though, at the moment, there is no military draft. Any organized campaign to
oppose U.S. military force in Afghanistan "is still in the process of taking
shape," said Joseph Gerson of the American Friends Service Committee in
Cambridge. But, he said, momentum is building.

"It's big and it's diverse," Gerson said. "I think it can be described as a
peace movement and an antiwar movement and a justice movement."

The energy is evident in increased traffic on the Internet, where new peace
sites are complementing existing sources of information about the
war. But   along with the vast virtual audience, actual crowds are
growing. In longtime centers of peace activity such as Berkeley and
Madison, Wis., large demonstrations began before the first bombs were
dropped.

But New England, long a focal point for activism, is where much of the
antiwar
action is unfolding.

The new pacifism feels almost polite, lacking the stridence of earlier
generations of American protest. Resistance to the U.S. military involvement
in
Afghanistan is thoughtful, reflective. It is tempered by angst, anguish--and
most of all, a fundamental abhorrence of what happened to this country when
hijackers commandeered four jetliners and killed more than 5,000 people.

The focus still is diffuse; there is no monolithic chorus of dissent. No
charismatic leaders have yet stepped forward. And if there is a single
defining
trait, at present it is a thirst for information.

With foundations in the vast and growing antiglobalization campaign, the
evolving peace movement draws on long-standing, traditional organizations
and
philosophies. Days after Sept. 11, Quaker groups organized the first peace
rallies. The War Resisters League, the Fellowship of Reconciliation and
other
old-time pacifist groups are back on the radarscope. Again and again, a
well-worn chestnut from Mahatma Ghandi--"an eye for an eye leaves the whole
world blind"--shows up on handouts and bulletin boards.

"I'm seeing a lot less of the knee-jerk kind of stuff," said Stephen Zunes,
a
Middle Eastern specialist who directs the peace and justice studies program
at
the University of San Francisco. "People are concerned, and they
oppose the war.

But they realize this is a different kind of situation. They need the facts.
They want more information."

A recent two-day speaking swing took Zunes from the Bay Area to Los Angeles
to
Eugene, Ore. His audiences were "big and enthused and agitated, but I
think in  more reflective, responsible way than we have seen
sometimes."

"Certainly there is passion out there, but it is a responsible
passion--one that has been tempered by the fact that we witnessed
this enormous tragedy on Sept. 11."

Boston University history professor Howard Zinn said he has been "besieged"
by
invitations to speak about terrorism and the war in Afghanistan, with "more
requests than I could possibly deal with." At 79, Zinn approaches the
stepped-up demand as an eminence grise of the antiwar movement and as
a bombardier from World War II.

What he sees, Zinn said, is a massive appetite for information and a
resistance
effort that is fast churning into action.

"Things are starting earlier now than they did with the Vietnam War,"
Zinn said.

"In the spring of 1965, we had 100 people on the Boston Common. Just a week
or
so ago, we had 2,000 people at Copley Square. It's starting earlier, and I
believe it will grow. Immediately after Sept. 11, if you talked about
American
foreign policy as having anything to do with the problem, people were
horrified.

It was too close. People thought you were diminishing the tragedy. I think
as
time passes, it will be easier to think in more long-term ways."

 From the Fields of Revolutionary Past

Out here in western Massachusetts, fertile territory for alternative
views since the American Revolution, opposition to capitalism and
corporate power was
already fueling many students.

Right away, said professor Michael Klare, head of peace and world security
studies at Hampshire College, "protests were organized by students who were
already geared up for antiglobalization protests." They have a perspective
that
makes them distinct from many other undergraduates Klare has encountered in
his
post-Sept. 11 flurry of speeches and seminars. "Most students don't even
have
that. They're just bewildered," he said.

But some students--and many nonstudents as well--crave involvement as a way
to
stave off feelings of helplessness. Over lunch one recent day, a table full
of
Hampshire College students talked about how and why they have plunged into
action, forming a local branch of a group born at UC Berkeley on Sept. 12:
Students for a Peaceful Response.

Their principles of unity, they explained, begin with a condemnation of the
attacks of Sept. 11.

 From there, said 21-year-old Kai Newkirk of Shepardstown, W.Va., "we have
the
priority of stopping the mass murder of millions. We have a window of a few
weeks."

Sydney Hoover, 17, a freshman from Upper Coe, Md., said she already
was involved in an antiglobalization protest aimed at the
International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. After Sept. 11, that
effort hastily shifted focus to initiate a campus dialogue with a
group called Activating Peace.

The loosely knit group launched nonviolence training seminars and began
preparing speakers, Hoover said. With the goal of creating "some kind
of visible dissenting presence," they reached out to local high
schools and community groups, organized teach-ins and held a daylong
walkout at Hampshire, a private school with 1,200 students.

The process unfolding at Hampshire reflects a powerfully American quality,
said
Dale Bryan of the peace and justice studies program at Tufts University,
near
Boston.

"This voice that for many represents rancorous discourse actually it is bona
fide, genuine American participation," Bryan said. "It is what the country
does
well, to assemble and participate freely, and we always have. And sometimes
it
is directed at the government, and the Constitution says, well, sometimes it
should be."

For those in "the movement"--a timeworn sobriquet that the peace effort has
clung to--"this is how it is being realized: in day-to-day, face-to-face,
ordinary conversations," Bryan said.

Signs of Growing Opposition in Streets

At Lincoln Square in Worcester, an industrial-era city in central
Massachusetts, this theory plays out each Tuesday at a street vigil.
Mothers, lawyers, clergy, students--the number stays constant at
about 50, though the participants change--stand at a busy
intersection. They chant, wave signs, hand out leaflets and often
hold conversations with people who come to a stop in their cars.

Out on the street in his suit and tie, Philip Stone, a 47-year-old attorney,
said: "I think this is a fairly typical example of the kind of
grass-roots peace activity that you will see going on all over the
country. This is a location with high visibility, a place where we
can demonstrate that there is thoughtful opposition to the policies
of the current administration."

Kindergarten teacher Kathleen Connelly Legg, a 45-year-old mother of
three, said she never protested during Vietnam and thought hard
before showing up at Lincoln Square. She was troubled, Legg said,
that "we, as the most powerful nation on Earth, are bombing the most
destitute."

Though small, the weekly demonstration will help the seeds of a new
peace effort to take root, Legg said.

"It spreads and it spreads as information gets out. I am hoping we are
laying
the groundwork for something much larger. I am hoping that we get that kind of time."
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We'll get such a letter out...  I would also like to bring into focus some
of the attempts by the Army to improve their image with a re-naming and a
public re-statement of purpose...

Here is a re-draft of X's letter... What do people think?  Is it
suitable for MAPC's purpose?  Too wordy?  Let me know.

Dear Editor:
     This year Madisonians are invited to join in a Peace Parade in
solidarity with the
eleventh annual School of the Americas protest.  The parade is being held at
MATC
Truax at noon on Saturday, November 17th.  For more information call
835-7501 or go to www.madpeace.org.
     Alexander Cockburn (11/02/01 'U.S. eyes sheer torture') notes that the
United States government has sheltered torturers around the world.  One way
the government has done this is through the Army School of the Americas
(SOA)in
Fort Benning, Georgia, long a U.S. military training school for torture
techniques.  The School's graduates have gone on to mastermind torture and
death squads in their home countries in Latin America.  In fact, SOA alumni
form a who's who of notorious human rights abusers in the region.  For ten
years, American citizens have protested the School of the Americas outside
Fort Benning on a Saturday in November.
     Recently the Army has tried to change the image of the SOA.  They
changed the name to The Western Hemisphere Institute for Security
Cooperation (WHINSEC). WHINSEC continues to train military personnel of
Latin American nations.  But now WHINSEC's stated mission includes training
students to provide humanitarian aid, to direct peacekeeping efforts, and to
protect individual human rights. To the extent that these are sincere
efforts we applaud them.
     However, by training Latin American soldiers in tactics of war, WHINSEC
promotes and exports violence.  Besides seeking acknowledgement and redress
for the terrible deeds of past SOA graduates, we also seek to change the
involvement of the US Government in exporting violence, along with promotion
of acts reinforcing poverty and increasing economic disparity.  In this
regard, we support House Resolution 1810 of the 107th US Congress, which
repeals authority for WHINSEC and calls for congressional oversight of
future training of Latin American military personnel.

Sincerely,
Madison Area Peace Coalition

-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:30 PM
To: discuss@madpeace.org; media@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-media] Isthmus Letter to the Editor


I am hereby requesting the media committee to send a letter to the Editor to
Isthmus on behalf of the MAPC.

The letter (or e-mail) should go out in time to get in the next issue.
Perhaps e-mailing this Monday or Tuesday would work.


Draft Letter Text Suggestion:

"
Dear Editor:
     Alexander Cockburn (11/02/01 'U.S. eyes sheer torture') notes that the
United States government has sheltered torturers around the world.  One way
the government has done this is through the Army School of the Americas in
Fort Benning, Georgia, long a U.S. military training school for torture
techniques.  The School's graduates have gone on to mastermind torture and
death squads in their home countries in Latin America.  In fact, the alumni
form a who's who of notorious human rights abusers in the region.  For ten
years, American citizens have protested the School of the Americas outside
Fort Benning on a Saturday in November.
     This year Madisonians can join in a Peace Parade in solidarity with the
eleventh annual School of the Americas protest.  It is being held at MATC
Truax at noon on Saturday, November 17th.  For more information call
835-7501 or go to www.madpeace.org.

Sincerely,
Madison Area Peace Coalition

Media Contact:  X, etc."

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Friday marks the first anniversary of the weekly vigil on the U.W. Library
Mall in solidarity with Palestine.

None of us, when we began, anticipated that we would be gathering a year
later.  Nor did we expect to see that the situation on the ground in the
Occupied West Bank and Gaza would be worse.

Despite all rhetoric from the Bush administration, the war drive against
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destructions, assaults on non-combattants, casualties -- has actually
increased despite warnings from the US.

Our presence, our visibility, our voice is more important than ever at
this time when so much attention has been drawn away from
Israel/Palestine.  Please come this Friday, any time between 11:30 and
1:00pm.  Bring signs calling for an end to the Occupation and an end to US
"aid" to Israel.  Drees in black.
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Hi Everyone,

   Last night I spoke with X.  She was supportive and said she'd
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   Possibly we can do a petition-type action where we add a cover letter to
the resolution and as citizens announce it to the floor on 11/6 (it still
won't be debated until 11/20).  That would give some cover to the
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   So I'll get back to you when I hear more!

--X

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To everyone,

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County is also against the war.  Although most of their political views do
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     Sincerely,
       x
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              <text>I was very concerned and saddened by some of what happened last night in regards to the direction of the peace sign logo "discussion." 

I have told the Coordinating Committee before and other individuals that I would like to concentrate much of energies on outreach efforts to the greater Madison communities and populations.  I also must say that I've been remiss in not attending the last two 0&amp;E committee meetings because I wanted to specifically bring this topic of connecting with others up to the group. 

I know there was discussion awhile back about separating the outreach and education components of that committee but it didn't lead to anything I believe because that committee's idea of what outreach was for their tasks was different from what I'm talking about here. 

I do intend to begin to work on this issue now, don't know if anyone else wants to specifically work on this as well, but that would be great.  If you do, please contact me at my email address or at XXX-XXXX. 

I also think that we need to do an action you described regarding the racial profiling issue--I was talking about the same thing later last night with my family.  In addition to what you've mentioned that's been going on in this realm, there've been at least 5,000 people who have undergone or are undergoing questioning by our government and also an Executive Order by Bush today or yesterday to establish a military-run terrorist tribunal.  Very heavy-duty activvities! 

Thanks again for your comments-- 

X

X wrote: 

[those who were not at tonight's mtg will be a little bewildered but able to understand the general import of this mail] I think a discussion of MAPC's outreach/inclusivity is overdue, but I would like to suggest that we leave the logo out of it for right now, to vastly reduce potential divisiveness of the issue. Table the logo for a week, talk about these important issues of inclusiveness, and then revive the logo discussion without it being a litmus test of any kind.  
I'm sure we've all seen it happen before. People who fundamentally mean well and generally agree with each other can get sidetracked into bitter wars over what meanings should be attributed to a symbol or symbolic action. Arguments over differing interpretations degenerate into labeling each others' interpretations in very negative ways. 

Right now, rather than fighting over the history vs. the perception of the peace sign, we should be focused on taking concrete steps to ensure (1) that everyone who opposes the war feels comfortable working with MAPC and (2) that MAPC's efforts to educate and inform are both respectful and audible to every community in Madison. 

If the use or non-use of the peace sign has a part to play, it should emerge out of this larger discussion, not be the instrument to open a can of worms.What we really need to examine is: what efforts have been made to build coalitions with various communities in Madison? I know efforts have just started to outreach to labor--excellent &amp; long overdue as well. Have we tried to invite other communities to get involved, or explored ways of networking? When I emailed my contacts in the Muslim Students' Assoc &amp; the Islamic Ctr about the rally this Saturday, they were unaware of any other MAPC effort to involve or even connect with their organizations. So--what has been done so far? What can be done?  
Secondly but no less importantly, we need to collect feedback from non-dominant-culture perspectives, whether coalition members or our contacts in various communities, regarding:1) perception of MAPC / anti-war movement in general--relevant? Inclusive?2) things MAPC can do to be *perceived* as more welcoming to anti-war people in various communities 
3) things MAPC can do to actually *be* more representative of a variety of views and voices 
4) particular ways MAPC can network with community leaders 
5) best strategies for each community for outreach on anti-war issues.It seems especially important that MAPC be a haven and firm support for anyone who feels isolated and vulnerable at the moment--whether it be the direct targets of racist scapegoating, or international students from any part of the globe who feel isolated by their anti-imperialist perspectives and/or afraid of the new anti-immigrant laws. So my final recommendation is that our next action should really target issues of racial profiling, Ashcroft's stripping away of immigrants' rights, and the hundreds of people currently in custody over a month without due process. (I was planning to suggest this anyway--it didn't just come up because of tonight's meeting).  
Guess that's more than two cents! 

In solidarity, 
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 From www.blackelectorate.com

*********************

Should African Americans Wave The Flag?

By:  Donna J. Warren,
California Green Party
10/23/2001

Black folks riding around with American flags waving from cars. Black
folks thinking maybe racial profiling isn't so bad as long as they're
profiling those evil terrorists, the Arabs and the Muslims.

Is it really OK for Black folks to ride around with American flags?

Is racial profiling now OK when directed to the Arab and Muslim Communities?

Recent polls in the Black community show that 60% of African
Americans are in favor of racial profiling of the Arab/Muslim
community in light of the 911 World Trade bombings. Is racial
profiling, a product of insidious American racism, ever justified?

Timothy McVeigh--male, white, American, veteran, Michigan militia
member, blew up the Oklahoma federal building. America did not
racially profile white Americans.

America did not advocate blowing up the State of Michigan.

The Taliban wants evidence of Osama bin Laden's guilt before they
turn bin Laden over to a court.

No negotiations says Bush. 'When I said no negotiations, I meant no
negotiations. We know he's guilty; turn him over.'

Don't need evidence to find bin Laden guilty. Nothing new to South
Central LA. Most of the 56,775 inmates in California's prisons under
the 3 Strikes Law were convicted with little or no evidence, often on
the word of a police officer, or worse still, sentenced to 25 years
to life because 5, 10, 15 years or more ago the evidence was a
bargained plea. 57% of these prisoners are African American; this in
a state that may be 12% African American. California Courts don't
need evidence to convict.

Simi Valley, 1992, lots of evidence showed 5 white policemen brutally
beating and inflicting permanent damage on a Black motorist. The
evidence was superfluous because a jury thought Stacey Koon and
company were acting in the best interests of the people. Not guilty
on all counts. Don't need evidence to convict white police who beat
and murder Blacks, need a miracle!

The Bill of Rights, that little document which is supposed to govern
how we do business in the United States of America, says a person is
innocent until proven guilty, and that the accused can face his
accuser in a court of law and that the defendant is entitled to a
trial by jury - a jury of his peers.

"Turn him over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostage they hold
over, destroy all the terrorist camps. ... I told them exactly what
they needed to do. There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We
know he's guilty. Turn him over," said the president selected by the
Supreme Court. "They hate our freedoms, our freedom of religion, our
freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with
each other."

Maybe that's why African Americans wave the flag. Osama bin Laden and
all those terrorist Arabs and Muslims hate our freedoms.

In 1996, Madeleine Albright, then the US secretary of state, was
asked on national television what she felt about the 500,000 Iraqi
children who had died as a result of US economic sanctions. It was a
'very hard choice,' but Albright said, 'all things considered, we
think the price is worth it.'

George Bush the First, Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger,
General Colin Powell, General Norman Schwarzkopf, Ronald Reagan,
Elliot Abrams, Gerald Ford, and George Bush the Second have
supported, trained, bankrolled and supplied with arms the murders of
millions in Yugoslavia, Somalia, Bosnia, Sudan, Rwanda, Pakistan,
Colombia, Iraq, Lebanon, the Congo, South Africa, My Lai, El
Salvador, Nicaragua, Vietnam, East Timor, Angola, Cambodia,
Guatemala, Grenada, Libya, Palestine, Afghanistan, and South Central
Los Angeles. U.S. terrorism continues to strike in the States -
infestation of crack cocaine by the CIA, mandatory minimum
sentencing, 3 Strikes, the Prison Industrial Complex, the racist
death penalty, institutionalized racism in education, health care,
social services, housing, employment.

Let's wave our flags for America and stand united with President Bush
in pure presumptuous arrogance because "If you're not with us, you're
against us".

I am an American but until America stops her aggression on my World,
until America humbles herself at the table for peace, and until
America apologizes for slavery, my African American brothers and
sisters will just have to wave that American flag without me.

"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil
obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world
have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have
gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience.
. . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the
face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty.
Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of
petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running and
robbing the country. That's our problem." Howard Zinn, "Failure to
Quit"

Donna J. Warren is a South Central LA Community Activist and Candidate for
the Green Party Nomination for Lt. Governor of California. She ran in June
2001 as the Green Party Candidate to fill the seat vacated by the death of
Julian Dixon in the 32nd Congressional District.


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Dear Committee,
     Last night we got the mandate from MAPC to float both a stronger "stop
the bombing" resolution, and a weaker one (the one posted to the discussion
list and handed out last night).
     I was somewhat dismayed to realize today that the deadline for filing
resolutions for the next meeting is today at noon, or tomorrow at noon for
addendum.
     So I took the liberty of contacting by e-mail all the alders X suggested we approach (5 or 6).  I presented them with both copies.
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military action against Afghanistan because that is the main obstacle to
addressing the humanitarian catastrophe there; and."  Otherwise, it's the
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Dear Action and Coordination committees,

The Palestine Right to Return Coalition would like to offer the MAPC members
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Peace, X
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Hello Friends,
What do y'all make of this article from today's Times
of India?


http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1030259305

"Bush took FBI agents off Laden family trail"

From: The Times of India Nov 9 01
By: RASHMEE Z. AHMED

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

LONDON: America was itself to blame for the events of
September 11 because the US administration was using
"kid gloves" in tracking down Osama bin Laden and
"other fanatics linked to Saudi Arabia", a special BBC
investigation has alleged in a damning indictment of
the two presidents Bush and American foreign policy.

The report, which the BBC claimed was based on a
secret FBI document, numbered 199I WF213589 and
emanating out of the FBIs Washington field office,
alleged that the cynicism of the American
establishment and "connections between the CIA and
Saudi Arabia and the Bush men and bin Ladens" may have
been the real cause of the deaths of thousands in the
World Trade Centre attacks.

The investigation, which featured in the BBCs leading
current affairs programme, Newsnight, said the FBI was
told to "back off" investigating one of Osama bin
Ladens brothers, Abdullah, who was linked to "the
Saudi-funded World Association of Muslim Youth (WAMY),
a suspected terrorist organisation," whose accounts
have still not been frozen by the US treasury despite
being banned by Pakistan some weeks ago and India
claiming it was linked to an organisation involved in
bombing in Kashmir".

Newsnight said there was a long history of "shadowy"
American connections with Saudi Arabia, not least the
two presidents Bushs "business dealings" with the bin
Ladens and another more insidious link revealed by the
former head of the American visa section in Jeddah.

The official said he had been concerned about visas
issued to large numbers of "unqualified" men "with no
family links or any links with America or Saudi
Arabia", only to find out later that it "was not visa
fraud" but part of a scheme in which young men
"recruited by Osama bin Laden" were being sent for
"terrorist training by the CIA" after which they were
sent on to Afghanistan.

In a reiteration of a now well-known claim by one of
George W Bushs former business partners, the BBC said
he made his first million 20 years ago on the back of
a company financed by Osamas elder brother, Salem.
But it added the more disturbing assertion that both
presidents Bush had lucrative stakes along with the
bin Ladens in Carlyle Corporation, a small private
company  which has gone on to become one of America's
biggest defence contractors. The bin Ladens sold their
stake in Carlyle soon after September 11, it said.

American politicians later told the BBC programme that
they rejected the accusation that the establishment
had called the dogs of the intelligence agencies off
the bin Ladens and the royal House of Saud because of
a strategic interest in Saudi Arabia, which has the
world's biggest oil reserve.

Note: Carlyle was rated #12 of 100 top USA defense
contractors in 1999 dh



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Room is scheduled - Union TITU at 4:00. They couldn't guarantee the Board
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X
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