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                <text>The Madison Area Peace Coalition (MAPC) formed fourteen days after the September 11 attacks to oppose (among other goals) the use of U.S. military, economic, or political force – whether direct or proxy, overt or covert -- "that violates the sovereignty or human rights of any nation or people." The Archive has assembled here e-mails exchanges from MAPC dating from the group's founding until late November 2001.</text>
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Aaaargh.

Part of me says "If we have to ask whether we should hold an emergency
rally, we shouldn't hold it."

The other part of me feels like a frog in a pot of water on the stove.  If
the heat is turned up gradually enough, the frog never knows when to jump,
until it's too late.

I realize that's not very helpful.  Anyone else have an opinion?

x



----- Original Message -----
From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
To: &lt;x&gt;
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:34 PM
Subject: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?


&gt; all (this is really a response to x's friday morning
&gt; call to potential action/questions and x's friday
&gt; night hey it looks like we should at least do a picket
&gt; line sat afternoon emails):
&gt;
&gt; if we are going to do this tomorrow, as x is
&gt; suggesting, i am out, as i have to work, but pls keep
&gt; me posted, as i will then start the arts chain going.
&gt; do we want same signs or more? x has sticks and i
&gt; have cardboard, etc.
&gt;
&gt; i wonder if, and this is just a wonder, having even a
&gt; picket when the action is not being well-publicized is
&gt; a good idea. i know that there is much going on in
&gt; this war, like all other us "actions" which is
&gt; underwritten dramatically, and we need to call
&gt; attention to it, however, folks are more likely to
&gt; understand what we are calling for and call with us if
&gt; it is of a dramatic nature. subjective nature, i
&gt; suppose. as we all agreed at the last meeting, from
&gt; here on out it is much more subjective than just the
&gt; bombing beginning.
&gt;
&gt; regardless, i will pass the word if i hear back from
&gt; more folks.
&gt;
&gt; thanks,
&gt; x
&gt;
&gt; --- x &lt;x&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; Hi all,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm back from work and the media coverage is
&gt; &gt; different than this
&gt; &gt; morning. This morning, TV had reported it as
&gt; &gt; "deploying ground troops."
&gt; &gt; Now the media is characterizing it as "a handful of
&gt; &gt; U.S. special forces."
&gt; &gt; Given that description, it looks like we do not need
&gt; &gt; to employ our
&gt; &gt; emergency response today. What a relief!  However, I
&gt; &gt; think we need to
&gt; &gt; be READY if troops are sent in. Given the quick
&gt; &gt; nature in which this
&gt; &gt; may happen, I opt for planning our strategy now so
&gt; &gt; we don't have to
&gt; &gt; scramble later. I think a picket line would be the
&gt; &gt; most expedient course,
&gt; &gt; especially given the fact that we've already had
&gt; &gt; numerous
&gt; &gt; rallies. Also, a picket line is a lot less work to
&gt; &gt; organize than a rally.
&gt; &gt; Rallies involve amplification, multiple speakers,
&gt; &gt; musicians, etc. We would
&gt; &gt; need the following to be ready if we decide on a
&gt; &gt; picket line: press release,
&gt; &gt; press contacts, bullhorn or portable sound system
&gt; &gt; (or both), picket signs,
&gt; &gt; chant sheets, and MAPC literature. These tasks cross
&gt; &gt; over multiple
&gt; &gt; committees so I think we ought to decide now what we
&gt; &gt; want to do and
&gt; &gt; start preparing within the committees--then we won't
&gt; &gt; be in a crisis
&gt; &gt; mode later.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Thoughts?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Peace,
&gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; &gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:31 AM
&gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-coord] Re: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action
&gt; &gt; Protesting Ground Troops
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; CNN is reporting a small deployment of Special
&gt; &gt; Forces ground troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; probably intended to locate targets for air
&gt; &gt; strikes rather than to engage
&gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; combat.  Fox News is reporting three teams of a
&gt; &gt; dozen troops each.  One of
&gt; &gt; &gt; them reported that there had been numerous prior
&gt; &gt; sightings of U.S. troops,
&gt; &gt; &gt; but that this was the first official confirmation.
&gt; &gt;  It's not the top story
&gt; &gt; &gt; either place.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; My recollection from the CC discussions was that
&gt; &gt; an emergency response
&gt; &gt; would
&gt; &gt; &gt; be automatic in the event of a non-Special Forces
&gt; &gt; ground invasion or a
&gt; &gt; &gt; *major* deployment of Special Forces, but that a
&gt; &gt; small Special Forces
&gt; &gt; &gt; deployment would not necessarily trigger an
&gt; &gt; emergency action.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I would also note that, in the two hours since x
&gt; &gt; posted this, there has
&gt; &gt; &gt; been no other discussion of an action on any of
&gt; &gt; the MAPC lists.  So I
&gt; &gt; don't
&gt; &gt; &gt; get the impression that other folks in MAPC have
&gt; &gt; interpreted this as
&gt; &gt; &gt; requiring immediate action.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; My own feeling -- perhaps influenced by the fact
&gt; &gt; that I'm sick and can't
&gt; &gt; &gt; help out regardless -- is that this is not a
&gt; &gt; significant military
&gt; &gt; escalation
&gt; &gt; &gt; and is probably just a public acknowledgment of
&gt; &gt; what has been happening on
&gt; &gt; &gt; the ground all along.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; x
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: "x" &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;x&gt;;
&gt; &gt; &lt;x&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:53 AM
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action Protesting
&gt; &gt; Ground Troops
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The media is saying that the US has sent ground
&gt; &gt; troops into Afghanistan.
&gt; &gt; &gt; We
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; had planned on a 5pm action on the capitol in
&gt; &gt; response to this. I think
&gt; &gt; we
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; should go ahead, but given all the other things
&gt; &gt; we are doing, we should
&gt; &gt; &gt; keep
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it simple.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I propose we just have a picket line. The
&gt; &gt; following things need to be
&gt; &gt; &gt; done:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get an announcement out to WORT to build the
&gt; &gt; action.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Get a bullhorn.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Put together a sheet of chants.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What do you think?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Unfortunately, I am walking out the door to go
&gt; &gt; to work, so I can't help
&gt; &gt; on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this. Given the fact its a work day, I suspect
&gt; &gt; alot of other people are
&gt; &gt; in
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the same boat. Can someone step up and run with
&gt; &gt; this?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; x
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