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 ------ Forwarded Message
 From: x
 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
 To: x
 Subject: The Big Lie

 The Big Lie
 Brigid McMenamin, Forbes.com, 09.17.01, 1:10 PM ET

 Must Americans sacrifice their liberty to achieve
 safety? The knee-jerk reaction to the Sept. 11
 terrorist attacks on the U.S. has been to say yes. Two
 out of three Americans are willing to surrender civil
 liberties to stop terrorism, according to an
 ABC-Washington Post poll taken the day after the
 attacks.

 "I'm puking every time I hear that," says Baltimore
 lawyer Thomas Bowden. "The idea is to compromise their
 lifestyle. We keep ours the same."

 The Big Lie
 Brigid McMenamin, Forbes.com, 09.17.01, 1:10 PM ET

 Must Americans sacrifice their liberty to achieve
 safety? The knee-jerk reaction to the Sept. 11
 terrorist attacks on the U.S. has been to say yes. Two
 out of three Americans are willing to surrender civil
 liberties to stop terrorism, according to an
 ABC-Washington Post poll taken the day after the
 attacks.

 "I'm puking every time I hear that," says Baltimore
 lawyer Thomas Bowden. "The idea is to compromise their
 lifestyle. We keep ours the same."

It's also irresponsible to suggest waiving civil
 rights. Take the bill passed by the Senate two days
 after the attack. It would permit police to tape
 phones and seize Internet records without a search
 warrant. That would leave Americans vulnerable to even
 greater evils.

 "It is something we will all regret down the road,"
 says Timothy Lynch, a constitutional law expert with
 the Cato Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based think
 tank.

 Most threatened is the Fourth Amendment prohibition
 against unreasonable searches. Does that safeguard
 have to be scrapped to search airline passengers more
 thoroughly? No, it doesn't.

 Airports already use machines sensitive enough to
 detect a box cutter. Luggage and people are already
 searched, but these searches don't raise
 constitutional issues, unless a government is
 involved. The Constitution restricts only official
 actions, not private ones. Courts agree that people
 can't expect much privacy in airports anyhow.

 What about when police are involved? They usually need
 a search warrant before raiding a home or tapping the
 phone. But police seldom have trouble persuading a
 judge to sign one. The standards are lax, especially
 when a terrorist is involved. This week America Online
 (nyse: AOL - news - people) and EarthLink (nasdaq:
 ELNK - news - people) cooperated with the FBI
 investigation by providing information about certain
 subscribers, according to the Washington Post.

 "This is already constitutional," explains lawyer
 James Harper, a privacy advocate and former counsel to
 the House Judiciary Committee. So why waive the Fourth
 Amendment and allow the government to eavesdrop and
 seize records without a warrant? Is the Justice
 Department trying to exploit a crisis for illicit
 purposes?

 "Sometimes they take advantage of these tragedies,"
 sighs Lynch, citing antiterrorist laws inspired by the
 bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma City in
 1996. Sacrificing rights didn't work then and it's
 dishonest for law enforcement to pretend that waiving
 civil rights now will work, either.

 Even if giving up some rights would help some,
 Americans shouldn't do it. That would be a victory for
 the terrorists, who sought to destroy a way of life.
 Even temporary measures tend to become permanent, as
 the British have discovered since the 1970s, when they
 waived some rights to thwart bombings by the Irish
 Republican Army.

 Giving up rights might even lead the U.S. into
 autocratic rule--which is what the terrorists want and
 what the Founding Fathers were trying to prevent when
 they wrote the Bill of Rights. America is built on a
 healthy distrust of government power. In the words of
 Ben Franklin, "Those who trade liberty for security
 will have neither."

 __________________________________________________
 Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help?
 Donate cash, emergency relief information
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