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----- Original Message -----
From: &lt;register@washingtonpost.com&gt;
To: &lt;rick@kissell.org&gt;
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 PM
Subject: A washingtonpost.com article from a washingtonpost.com user


&gt; You have been sent this message from a washingtonpost.com user as a
courtesy of the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com).
&gt;
&gt; To view the entire article, go to
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37718-2001Nov15.html
&gt;
&gt; On Left and Right, Concern Over Anti-Terrorism Moves
&gt;
&gt; By George Lardner Jr.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; A growing chorus on the left and the right is accusing the Bush
administration of ignoring civil liberties while leaving the courts and
Congress out in the cold as it aggressively pursues the war on terrorism
here and abroad.
&gt;
&gt; Critics ranging from the solidly liberal People for the American Way
Foundation to conservative Rep. Robert L. Barr Jr. (R-Ga.) are
characterizing recently announced administration plans as ethnic profiling,
power grabbing and overzealous law enforcement.
&gt;
&gt; "Military tribunals, secret evidence, no numbers on how many people the
government is detaining," said Jim Zogby, president of the Arab-American
Institute. "We're looking like a Third World country."
&gt;
&gt; The latest focus of the debate is an order signed by President Bush this
week that empowers him to order military trials here and abroad for
international terrorists and their collaborators.
&gt;
&gt; But other complaints concern Attorney General John D. Ashcroft's decision
to monitor conversations between lawyers and some clients in federal custody
if Ashcroft believes it is necessary to thwart future terrorism; the plan to
question 5,000 foreign nationals who recently entered the country; and the
FBI's visits to hundreds of college campuses to check on the records of
foreign students, mostly from Middle Eastern countries.
&gt;
&gt; Under pressure from the Justice Department, the State Department also has
agreed to slow temporarily the granting of visas to Arab and Muslim males,
ages 16 to 45, from 25 countries so the FBI and INS can conduct security
checks.
&gt;
&gt; The administration has made no apologies, saying the nation is in the
midst of an extraordinary emergency.
&gt;
&gt; "I think it's important to understand that we are at war now," Ashcroft
said earlier this week in defending military tribunals.
&gt;
&gt; Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh said that the overriding goal of the
Justice Department is to "prevent further terrorist attacks" but that at the
same time it must take care "not to redefine the line between law
enforcement and civil liberties."
&gt;
&gt; Critics in Congress, legal scholars and spokesmen for the nation's Arab
American community have voiced misgivings about the new anti-terrorism laws,
passed last month as the USA-Patriot Act. But they are far more vocal about
what the administration has done since then.
&gt;
&gt; Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) said he
intends to hold hearings on the military tribunals directive and other
recent steps that have been taken without consulting Congress.
&gt;
&gt; "There's a lot of disquiet among both Republican and Democratic senators
who think the rules of law are being turned on their head, and they wonder
what we gain by it," Leahy said in an interview. "I want to know what
security needs are being met, or whether this is action for the sake of
having action when you can't catch people."
&gt;
&gt; House Judiciary Committee members have also called for hearings. Barr said
the administration should have given the new anti-terrorist laws time to
work, then gone back to Congress if they turned out to be insufficient.
&gt;
&gt; "Instead, it seems their attitude is, 'Well, that wasn't enough so we're
going to take more,' " Barr told a reporter. "I'm not sure we can ever
satisfy the federal government's insatiable appetite for more power."
&gt;
&gt; Advocacy groups from both sides of the political spectrum have joined the
debate. Ralph Neas, president of the People for the American Way Foundation,
accused Ashcroft of "waging a relentless assault on civil liberties." Among
the most troubling actions, Neas said, was the order empowering Ashcroft to
violate the attorney-client privilege without a court order.
&gt;
&gt; The Justice Department said the order so far pertains only to 13 people in
federal custody, none of them connected to the Sept. 11 attacks.
&gt;
&gt; "Terrorism isn't the only threat to our way of life," Neas said yesterday.
"We need an attorney general who will stand up to terrorists, but we also
need an attorney general who will stand up for the Constitution and the Bill
of Rights."
&gt;
&gt; Zogby said the administration's emergency measures are already undermining
U.S. credibility abroad, where thousands of Arab men, students, businessmen
and, in some cases, royalty are having visa requests held up for security
checks.
&gt;
&gt; Just back from a trip to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Zogby
said the fear of U.S. authorities there is widespread.
&gt;
&gt; "Forty percent of the students from the UAE who were in the United States
. . . have already gone home," Zogby said.
&gt;
&gt; Tim Lynch, director of the Cato Institute's project on criminal justice,
said it appears that the president's strong support in public opinion polls
has fostered "an arrogance at the White House." He said officials believe
they can take presidential power "farther than it's gone before."
&gt;
&gt; Lynch was especially critical of the order for military tribunals. They
would be able to impose sentences as severe as death on a two-thirds vote,
hold trials in secret and rely on evidence that would be rejected in a civil
court.
&gt;
&gt; "It undermines the courts, obviously," Lynch said of the order, "and it
undermines Congress because it is essentially legislating action by
presidential edict."
&gt;
&gt; Issued by Bush as commander in chief, the military order directs the
secretary of defense to detain indefinitely any noncitizen who Bush has
"reason to believe" is a past or present member of Osama bin Laden's al
Qaeda terror network, has engaged in international terrorism directed at
U.S. interests or has "knowingly harbored such individuals."
&gt;
&gt; Military tribunals, using whatever standard of proof Defense Secretary
Donald H. Rumsfeld chooses, then would be able to try those individuals for
"all offenses triable by military commission" -- in other words, offenses
under the laws of war.
&gt;
&gt; "This is absolutely, totally constitutional," an administration official
conversant with the decree said yesterday. "The only ones to be tried will
be foreign enemy belligerents."
&gt;
&gt; That could include an al Qaeda cell member planning more acts of violence,
he said. "If they're hiding and planning acts of violence," he said, "they
are in violation of the laws of war. The U.S. Constitution doesn't protect
them."
&gt;
&gt; Bush's order does not allow for judicial review. Several legal experts
said a little-noticed provision at the end of the directive order also
appears to be an effort by the president to suspend the right of habeas
corpus, which prisoners can use to challenge their detention.
&gt;
&gt; President Franklin D. Roosevelt claimed such authority, without success,
when he ordered a secret military trial of eight Nazi saboteurs during World
War II.
&gt;
&gt; Bush said that "any individual subject to this order shall not be
privileged to seek any remedy . . . in any court of the United States, or
any state thereof."
&gt;
&gt; "The word 'privileged' is the tip-off," said Philip A. Lacovara, a former
deputy U.S. solicitor general. He said he was surprised by the provision
even though he favors military tribunals as the best response to the attacks
of Sept. 11.
&gt;
&gt; "The Constitution sets out only two grounds for suspending the privilege
of challenging one's detention on a habeas corpus petition: one is invasion
and the other is rebellion. Even in the Civil War, the courts were reluctant
to allow President Lincoln to dispense with habeas corpus."
&gt;
&gt; Lacovara added: "It adds another level of controversy to the order."
&gt;
&gt; Dan Bartlett, the White House's communications director, denied that the
order forecloses habeas corpus petitions for noncitizens detained in the
United States for military trials.
&gt;
&gt; During World War II, the Supreme Court reviewed the saboteurs' case
despite Roosevelt's attempts to block their petition for release. The White
House is aware that would probably occur if Bush tried the same thing,
administration officials said.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;em&gt;Staff writers Dan Eggen and Mary Beth Sheridan contributed to this
report.&lt;/em&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;


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   People are saying this is not Vietnam, and they're getting away with it.

   Last night I was leafletting at the Dylan concert.  A wall of
indifference.  I'm sure my leafletting technique could use some improvement.
  But still, fans don't connect this anti-war singer to peace.

   And Feingold Sunday at the Pyle Center.  He defended our bombing in
Afghanistan as justified self-defense, just after he mentioned (bragged?)
that he had protested against the Vietnam War right outside that building.
It's maddening that he's trying to get credit for a past anti-war stance,
while firmly siding with the status quo now.

   The Nation's Katha Pollitt recently stated that this war is not like
Vietnam.  She took potshots at the peace movement, and repeated the mantra:
this war is justified self defense.  Then in the end she agreed it's a
stupid and wrong-headed approach, exactly as she initially characterized
Vietnam.

   Castro's speech handed out at the last Socialist Potluck showed some
valid parallels between this war and Vietnam.  The vague goal, the
unidentifiable enemy, and now the advisors going in.

   September 11th is functioning as a pretext, and people won't acknowledge
it.  Several thousand Americans are killed, so that gives us the right to
starve several MILLION Afghanis?  That gives us the right to wage war
against any number of countries, and use WHATEVER methods and weapons we
want?

   How can we tap into Americans' belief that Vietnam was wrong, so that
they will see this war is wrong in the same way?


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"We have about 50% of the world's wealth, but only 6% of its
population... In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy
and resentment.  Our real task is to maintain this position of disparity
without detriment to our national security.  To do so, we will have to
dispense with all sentimentality and daydreaming.  We should cease to talk
about vague and unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of
living standards, and democratization.  The day is not far off when we are
going to have to deal in straight power concepts.  The less we are
hampered by idealistic slogans, the better..."
                   - Cold War global strategist and Presidential
Foreign Policy Advisor, George F. Kennan, "Presidential Policy Statement
23" TOP SECRET (1948)


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:59:01 -0500
Subject: quotes on Patriotism and on Americanism


"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense
that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!"
--Albert Einstein


QUOTATION: Patriotism is a lively sense of collective responsibility.
Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on its own dunghill and calling for
larger spurs and brighter beaks. I fear that nationalism is one of
Englands many spurious gifts to the world.
ATTRIBUTION: Richard Aldington (18921962), British author.


QUOTATION: Patriotism ruins history.
ATTRIBUTION: Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (17491832), German poet, dramatist.

AUTHOR: Charles de Gaulle, President of France
QUOTATION: Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.

[Patriotism] ...is a word which always commemorates a robbery. There isn't
a foot of land in the world which doesn't represent the ousting and
re-ousting of a longline of successive "owners" who each in turn, as
"patriots" with proud swelling hearts defended it against the next gang of
"robbers" who came to steal it and did--and became swelling-hearted
patriots in their turn.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

Man is the only Patriot. He sets himself apart in his own country, under
his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous
uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other
people's countries, and keep them from grabbing slices of his. And in the
intervals between campaigns he washes the blood of his hands and works for
"the universal brotherhood of man"- with his mouth.
Mark Twain, "The Lowest Animal"

Many a bum show has been saved by the flag.
~ George M. Cohan [didn't he write God Bless America????]

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent,
rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
~ Barbara Ehrenreich ~
Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity.
"Patriotism" is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by
"patriotism" I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity,
above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one's
own nation, which is the concern with the nation's spiritual as much as
with its material welfare --never with its power over other nations. Just
as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love,
love for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not
love, but idolatrous worship.
~ Erich Fromm ~

Intellectually I know that America is no better than any other country;
emotionally I know she is better than every other country.
~ Sinclair Lewis ~

You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face
reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.
~ Malcolm X ~

God has given you your country as cradle, and humanity as mother; you
cannot rightly love your brethren of the cradle if you love not the common
mother.
~ Giuseppe Mazzini ~





Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
~ Bertrand Russell ~

AMERICANS
How much longer are we going to think it necessary to be "American" before
(or in contradistinction to) being cultivated, being enlightened, being
humane, and having the same intellectual discipline as other civilized
countries?
~ Edith Wharton ~

America is a land where a citizen will cross the ocean to fight for
democracy--and won't even cross the street to vote in a national
election.--Bill Vaughan (1915-1977)

America is one of the finest countries anyone ever stole.--Bobcat
Goldthwaite

America is the best half-educated country in the world.--Nicholas Murray
Butter

America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly
from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of
civilization.--George Clemenceau (1841-1929)

Americans always try to do the right thing--after they've tried everything
else.--Winston Churchill

Americans have different ways of saying things. They say `elevator', we say
`lift'. . .they say `President', we say `stupid psychopathic git'. . .
.--Alexi Sayle

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.--Thomas Jefferson
(1743--1826)

Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any
Indian.--Robert Orben

Ninety eight percent of the adults in this country are decent, hardworking,
honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent that get all the
publicity. But then, we elected them.--Lily Tomlin (1939--)

We don't know what we want, but we are ready to bite somebody to get
it.--Will Rogers (1879--1935)

What a pity, when Christopher Columbus discovered America, that he ever
mentioned it.--Margot Asquith

When good Americans die, they go to Paris; when bad Americans die they go
to America.--Oscar Wilde (1856--1900)


At 05:07 AM 11/1/01 -0600, you wrote:



&gt;"Samuel Johnson's saying that patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels
&gt;has some truth in it, but not nearly enough. Patriotism, in truth, is the
&gt;great nursery of scoundrels, and its annual output is probably greater that
&gt;of even religion. Its chief glories are the demagogue, the military bully,
&gt;and the spreader of libels and false history. Its philosophy rests firmly
&gt;on the doctrine that the end justifies the means - that any blow, whether
&gt;above or below the belt, is fair against dissenters from its wholesale
&gt;denial of plain facts." -- H.L. Mencken


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X and I have found the art hanger.  She's X, has had
experience and I'll be speaking with her tomorrow upon her return to
Madison.

Barbara

X wrote:

&gt; Needed for Dec. 2 Silent Art Auction:  One (possibly with a helper)
&gt; EXPERIENCED art hanger. The management of Mother Fools requests that
&gt; we provide someone - their staff cannot do it for us.  Someone who
&gt; has worked with hanging art by filament (fishing line?) before is
&gt; needed - it should only take about 2 hours if you know how to do it...
&gt;
&gt; thanks!
&gt; rebekah
&gt;
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We'll get such a letter out...  I would also like to bring into focus some
of the attempts by the Army to improve their image with a re-naming and a
public re-statement of purpose...

Here is a re-draft of X's letter... What do people think?  Is it
suitable for MAPC's purpose?  Too wordy?  Let me know.

Dear Editor:
     This year Madisonians are invited to join in a Peace Parade in
solidarity with the
eleventh annual School of the Americas protest.  The parade is being held at
MATC
Truax at noon on Saturday, November 17th.  For more information call
835-7501 or go to www.madpeace.org.
     Alexander Cockburn (11/02/01 'U.S. eyes sheer torture') notes that the
United States government has sheltered torturers around the world.  One way
the government has done this is through the Army School of the Americas
(SOA)in
Fort Benning, Georgia, long a U.S. military training school for torture
techniques.  The School's graduates have gone on to mastermind torture and
death squads in their home countries in Latin America.  In fact, SOA alumni
form a who's who of notorious human rights abusers in the region.  For ten
years, American citizens have protested the School of the Americas outside
Fort Benning on a Saturday in November.
     Recently the Army has tried to change the image of the SOA.  They
changed the name to The Western Hemisphere Institute for Security
Cooperation (WHINSEC). WHINSEC continues to train military personnel of
Latin American nations.  But now WHINSEC's stated mission includes training
students to provide humanitarian aid, to direct peacekeeping efforts, and to
protect individual human rights. To the extent that these are sincere
efforts we applaud them.
     However, by training Latin American soldiers in tactics of war, WHINSEC
promotes and exports violence.  Besides seeking acknowledgement and redress
for the terrible deeds of past SOA graduates, we also seek to change the
involvement of the US Government in exporting violence, along with promotion
of acts reinforcing poverty and increasing economic disparity.  In this
regard, we support House Resolution 1810 of the 107th US Congress, which
repeals authority for WHINSEC and calls for congressional oversight of
future training of Latin American military personnel.

Sincerely,
Madison Area Peace Coalition

-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:30 PM
To: discuss@madpeace.org; media@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-media] Isthmus Letter to the Editor


I am hereby requesting the media committee to send a letter to the Editor to
Isthmus on behalf of the MAPC.

The letter (or e-mail) should go out in time to get in the next issue.
Perhaps e-mailing this Monday or Tuesday would work.


Draft Letter Text Suggestion:

"
Dear Editor:
     Alexander Cockburn (11/02/01 'U.S. eyes sheer torture') notes that the
United States government has sheltered torturers around the world.  One way
the government has done this is through the Army School of the Americas in
Fort Benning, Georgia, long a U.S. military training school for torture
techniques.  The School's graduates have gone on to mastermind torture and
death squads in their home countries in Latin America.  In fact, the alumni
form a who's who of notorious human rights abusers in the region.  For ten
years, American citizens have protested the School of the Americas outside
Fort Benning on a Saturday in November.
     This year Madisonians can join in a Peace Parade in solidarity with the
eleventh annual School of the Americas protest.  It is being held at MATC
Truax at noon on Saturday, November 17th.  For more information call
835-7501 or go to www.madpeace.org.

Sincerely,
Madison Area Peace Coalition

Media Contact:  X, etc."

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All - Remember things like this the next time someone takes you to task for
not voting Democratic.  Democrats voted en masse for this bill, as they did
for the tax cut.  They failed to stop the Ashcroft and Norton nominations,
and they support SDI, massive corporate giveaways and soon more tax cuts.
Is
it any wonder former Democrats are leaving the party in droves?  X

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Hi all,

The action committee of the Madison Area Peace Coalition has put a lot of
time and energy into
organizing this event so that it is family-friendly and non-confrontational.
I think we should respect the
wishes of the coalition and the action committee in this matter. People plan
to bring children and the
organizers are putting together activities for the kids. I do not want to
see kids (including my child)
getting pepper sprayed. It's not hard to predict what will happen at the
event if we work together on this
and make a point of NOT performing illegal acts. At the rally, the
organizers will explain the format and
I think we should go with it as a unified group. We can discuss the plan at
tomorrow night's MAPC
general membership meeting so people know what to expect. Performing any
illegal acts and getting
arrested will only serve to marginalize us and cause negative media. This
would be to the detriment of
the coalition and the peace movement as a whole. What we need now more than
ever is to broaden our
base, not weaken it. Arrests would be costly, divisive and
counterproductive. This can be done!  On
September 17th we (pre-MAPC peace organizers) put together a massive peace
rally attended by 800+
people. There was not one incident, not one arrest. We received good media
coverage here in Madison and
throughout the country. WE CAN DO IT.


Peace,
X


-----Original Message-----
From: X
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:32 AM
To: X
Cc: X
Subject: Madison - Truax Direct Action Options

Hello,

        I know many people are worried about the "law and order"
response to the Peace Parade scheduled for this coming Sat. (11/17)
at 12:00 Noon outside the gates of Truax Air Force Base near MATC in
Madison.  It is hard to predict what will happen.  Having been in
lots of protests, I tend to prepare for the worst and I would
encourage others to do the same.  No matter what we call the event -
parade, vigil, protest, march, memorial, etc. etc. - the reaction may
be exactly the same by the police.

        In terms of direct action, I agree with many others that the
"least threatening" tactics are preferable.  Personally, I'm not in
favor of blocking the gates, climbing the fence, or otherwise
creating a situation where authorities feel compelled to respond
and/or arrest people.  Of course, they could still pepper spray
someone for merely carrying a bouquet of flowers - such are the times
we live in...

At any rate, three relatively "mellow" and somewhat "fun" direct
action tactics people have been tossing around for Saturday's event
include:

1.) Decorating the fence with statements of resistance, demands for
peace, etc. etc. - this could include poems, quotes, balloons, paper
cranes, posters, large photos of Afghani children, etc. etc.  This
tactic worked very well in Quebec at the FTAA protests and got a lot
of media coverage.

2.) Mock minefield with similar looking "cluster bombs" and "food
packages" strewn along the roadside and entrance that people could
pick up and discover their fate by reading the explanation on the
bottom.  The UW Greens in conjunction with the International Campaing
to Ban Landmines has done similar mock minefields on UW Library Mall
with a good public response.

3.) Propaganda flights with people making paper "F-16s" out of copies
of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, Geneva Convention, photos of
refugees, etc. etc. and tossing them over the fence.  This tactic has
been used by solidarity groups  - a common nickname is the "Zapatista
Airforce."

        At any rate, these "mild" direct action tactics (and possible
others) I hope can be discussed at the Student Youth Caucus meeting
tonight and at the full MAPC meeting tomorrow.  Hopefully, there is
enough space and trust within the coalition umbrella for such
activities to occur.

                                                Thanks - X, Madison
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X, et.al.:
The important thing to keep in mind is tha "tactics" are always shaped
and dewtermined by several considerations.  Primary is the message, how
and what you want to reach the public with, that is, how you go about
putting forward some politics.  That in turn is always determined by the
"correlation of forces" not only on the ground at the location, but the
general public mood, the receptivity of a broader audience.  We, at this
point, do not know what kind of reception we'll receive so one must be
careful about suggesting actions or forms of protest.

FLexibility, the ability to read the situation, is key so that some
indiviuals/individualists don't get too far out in front.

A guideline might be "No stupid shit!"

There have been discussions about this gathering for weeks now.  I don't
recall your presence at any of the meetings.  Now, but days before, you
want to initiate a discussion via e-mail, not the best place.
-AR
PS:: Please forward this to the various lists that I'm not on.

On Mon, 12
Nov 2001,  X wrote:

&gt; Hello,
&gt;
&gt; 	I know many people are worried about the "law and order"
&gt; response to the Peace Parade scheduled for this coming Sat. (11/17)
&gt; at 12:00 Noon outside the gates of Truax Air Force Base near MATC in
&gt; Madison.  It is hard to predict what will happen.  Having been in
&gt; lots of protests, I tend to prepare for the worst and I would
&gt; encourage others to do the same.  No matter what we call the event -
&gt; parade, vigil, protest, march, memorial, etc. etc. - the reaction may
&gt; be exactly the same by the police.
&gt;
&gt; 	In terms of direct action, I agree with many others that the
&gt; "least threatening" tactics are preferable.  Personally, I'm not in
&gt; favor of blocking the gates, climbing the fence, or otherwise
&gt; creating a situation where authorities feel compelled to respond
&gt; and/or arrest people.  Of course, they could still pepperspray
&gt; someone for merely carrying a bouquet of flowers - such are the times
&gt; we live in...
&gt;
&gt; At any rate, three relatively "mellow" and somewhat "fun" direct
&gt; action tactics people have been tossing around for Saturday's event
&gt; include:
&gt;
&gt; 1.) Decorating the fence with statements of resistance, demands for
&gt; peace, etc. etc. - this could include poems, quotes, balloons, paper
&gt; cranes, posters, large photos of Afghani children, etc. etc.  This
&gt; tactic worked very well in Quebec at the FTAA protests and got a lot
&gt; of media coverage.
&gt;
&gt; 2.) Mock minefield with similar looking "cluster bombs" and "food
&gt; packages" strewn along the roadside and entrance that people could
&gt; pick up and discover their fate by reading the explanation on the
&gt; bottom.  The UW Greens in conjunction with the International Campaing
&gt; to Ban Landmines has done similar mock minefields on UW Library Mall
&gt; with a good public response.
&gt;
&gt; 3.) Propaganda flights with people making paper "F-16s" out of copies
&gt; of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, Geneva Convention, photos of
&gt; refugees, etc. etc. and tossing them over the fence.  This tactic has
&gt; been used by solidarity groups  - a common nickname is the "Zapatista
&gt; Airforce."
&gt;
&gt; 	At any rate, these "mild" direct action tactics (and possible
&gt; others) I hope can be discussed at the Student Youth Caucus meeting
&gt; tonight and at the full MAPC meeting tomorrow.  Hopefully, there is
&gt; enough space and trust within the coalition umbrella for such
&gt; activities to occur.
&gt;
&gt; 						Thanks - X, Madison
&gt;


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Good news - the progressives think they could support the resolution AFTER
Thanksgiving.  They don't want to act on anything yet, since they said the
struggle to change "prayers" to "sympathies" last time was very "divisive."
The two-pronged approach doesn't look too promising in this environment.
They want the weakest version we presented.  Still, we'll try to submit the
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RAWA will be here in Chicago!
RAWA: The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan.

The following in a free program at
Harold Washington Library Center/Chicago Public Library.
Society in Focus/Women's History Month Committee Program:
Please post and share:

Saturday, November 10, 2001, 2:00 P.M.
Harold Washington Library Center
Chicago Authors Room, 7th Floor
400 S. State St.
Free

Society in Focus

The Struggle for Womens Emancipation
  in South Asia and the Middle East
RAWA:
The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan

Panel discussion including:
Tahmeena Faryal, RAWA representative  (not her real name)
Janet Afary:
Purdue University, Iranian feminist and scholar,
author of The Iranian Constitutional Revolution, 1906-1911:
Grassroots Democracy, Social Democracy &amp; the Origins of Feminism
Madhuri Deskmukh: Oakton Community College, Indian feminist
Manal Sam, Palestinian women's rights activist
Saturday, November 10, 2001, 2:00 P.M.
Harold Washington Library Center
Chicago Authors Room, 7th Floor
400 S. State St.
Free
NO CAMERAS (STILL OR VIDEO) OR AUDIO RECORDING ALLOWED
RAWA was established in Kabul, Afghanistan, in 1977 as an
independent, all volunteer, non-violent political/social
organization of Afghan women fighting for human rights and social
justice in Afghanistan.  RAWA, secretly and under the threat of
death, conducts nursing courses, literacy courses, and vocational
training courses for women. In addition, they provide schooling for
  children, as well as medical care. In neighboring Pakistan, RAWA
provides Afghan refugees with aid, runs orphanages, and sponsors
income-generating projects.
For more information about RAWA:    http://www.rawa.org

Co-sponsored by News and Letters Committees/Open University of the Left
Society in Focus/Womens History Month Committee  program
312-747-4600

________________________________________________________________________
Another unrelated but good source of information about women in
Afghanistan is:
The Feminist Majoritiy Foundation
http://www.feminist.org/afghan/intro.asp
Read articles; make donations; take action.
______________________________________________________________________

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We might halt the speeches at a rally for ten
&gt;minutes to let people talk to each other.  Or do away with the
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&gt;smaller-group discussions on their issues and tactics, run short
&gt;training sessions, offer games or dances or rituals.  And we could
&gt;develop ways to create instant Public Conversations as actions and
&gt;as education.


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WAR, ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM GRIP MIDDLE EAST, SOUTH ASIA

News &amp; Letters (www.newsandletters.org)  November 2001

A new phase of the post-Sept. 11 conflict began when the U.S. bombs began
to fall on Afghanistan Oct. 7. Dozens, if not hundreds, of innocent Afghan
civilians have been killed already. The U.S. also launched commando raids.
As the bombs fell, not a single leader of Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda or
Afghanistan's ruling Taliban was hit, but the food supply of the already
famine-ridden Afghan people was seriously disrupted. The respected human
rights organization Doctors Without Borders was quick to note both the
incongruity of U.S. air drops of food along with bombs and the fact that
such measures could only deliver a fraction of the food that U.N. trucks
had been taking in beforehand. It is a virtual certainty that thousands of
civilians will starve this winter.
At home, the U.S. was hit with biological terrorism in the form of
anthrax-laden letters addressed to prominent people in the government and
the media. These inhuman attacks-whose source is still unknown-have so far
killed only working people. The class nature of capitalist society was
plain for all to see as two of those murdered were postal workers, whom the
government unconscionably failed to protect. They had ordered anthrax tests
for everyone at the White House and Congress, but failed to take the same
measures for the workers whose hands had delivered the anthrax-ridden
letters to them.
Fear of terrorism has given a big opening to the Right. George Bush,
installed by the Supreme Court even though he lost the popular vote, has
been immeasurably strengthened. At the same time, we are facing "national
security" laws, as well as a government-fanned backlash against critics, of
a type not seen since McCarthyism.
Consider also the FBI's bizarre "definition" of terrorism, which includes
the following outrageous statement found on their website: "The second
category of domestic terrorists, left-wing groups, generally profess a
revolutionary socialist doctrine." One wonders how many resources America's
political police expended on surveillance of the anti-globalization,
anti-capitalist movement, during the very months when, seemingly unknown to
them, Mohammad Atta and others were finalizing their plans.

CHANGED WORLD SINCE SEPTEMBER 11

Since Sept. 11, we all live in a changed world. First and most obvious is
the new stage reached by Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. It announced
itself in a series of coordinated actions: the horrific Sept. 11 attacks on
New York and Washington, D.C. themselves; the assassination two days
earlier, also in a suicide attack, of their chief military rival inside
Afghanistan, Ahmad Shah Massoud; and the Oct. 7 release, within hours of
Bush's announcement that the U.S. had begun bombing Afghanistan, of a
videotaped speech by Osama bin Laden gloating over Sept. 11 and threatening
future attacks. With these events the Al Qaeda network signaled that it had
both the suicidal fanatics and the organization to hit at its opponents
anywhere in the world. Its global reach was proved in the coming days, as
pro-bin Laden rallies took place in many countries.
Second, the U.S., the sole remaining superpower, caught off-guard by Sept.
11, was quick to respond with the declaration of a "global war on
terrorism." The Bush administration initiated a level of military-security
buildup not seen since the Vietnam War. With Taliban-ruled Afghanistan the
only country openly supporting Al Qaeda, it was unclear how the blunt
instrument of war would help very much in what should be essentially a
global criminal investigation of an underground network. However, the U.S.
war drive received immediate support from Western Europe and Japan.
Third, in a major global realignment, the U.S. also received unexpectedly
strong backing from Russia's Vladimir Putin, who evidently had his own
reasons to join a global alliance against Islamic fundamentalism. Putin
helped to provide something totally unprecedented, bases for U.S. troops in
Uzbekistan, a part of the former Soviet Union bordering Afghanistan and
still under strong Russian influence. This insertion of U.S. power into
Central Asia is a major event, and not just because of oil. This strategic
region is within striking distance not only of Russia and the Middle East,
but also of China and India. Putin later hinted that he might also go along
with Bush's anti-missile scheme. In return, he got Western silence about
his genocidal repression in mainly Muslim Chechnya. Another realignment was
seen in the Middle East, where the U.S. was forced to distance itself from
Israel.
Considerably more reluctant support for the U.S. came from Pakistan and
Saudi Arabia, whose ruling classes have long supported many forms of
Islamic fundamentalism and whose populations are extremely angry at the
U.S. over its nearly unconditional support of Israel. However, China was
surprisingly uncritical of the U.S. war drive, apparently because it too
feared the insurgency among the mainly Muslim Uighurs of Xinjiang in
western China.

FUNDAMENTALIST RULE IN IRAN, AFGHANISTAN

In opposing the reactionary moves of the Bush administration, the Left has
too often ignored or minimized the threat of Islamic fundamentalism itself.
It needs to be remembered that this is a political force that opposes the
global dominant classes, gaining some mass support for that reason, yet
seeks to install a regime that would wipe away decades of gains for
workers, women, youth, lesbians and gays, and ethnic minorities. Just as
much of the Left failed in earlier generations to grasp the dangers of
fascism or of Stalinist state-capitalism, so today many on the Left are
failing to see the danger of Islamic fundamentalism.
Iran has been ruled by Islamic fundamentalists since they hijacked the mass
1979 revolution, crushing the small feminist movement and then devouring
their former allies on the Left. The result has been a theocratic police
state that systematically oppresses women and youth, severely represses
religious and ethnic minorities, and bans both trade unions and secular
political organizations. In recent years, the regime has been strongly
challenged from within. It is therefore not surprising that the Iranian
masses were among the first in the Muslim world to publicly  mourn the
victims of Sept. 11. This included small street demonstrations, as well as
a moment of silence at a major soccer match.
Another nation that has experienced Islamic fundamentalist rule is of
course Afghanistan, where conditions are even worse. The courageous
Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA) has conducted
an underground struggle against the Taliban. They have run clandestine
schools for women and girls and have also smuggled out video footage of the
public execution of a woman for "adultery," which to the Taliban could mean
simply talking with someone of the opposite sex. As RAWA stated on July 14,
2001, Bastille Day: "No country is heedful of our people's struggle in the
hell of fundamentalism. Let us link arms, and, relying on the power of our
bereaved people, overturn the government of blood and treason of the
fundamentalists" (www.rawa.org).
The U.S. never seriously opposed the Taliban until Sept. 11, even after Al
Qaeda moved its bases there in 1996, despite the fact that Al Qaeda was
known to be linked to the first attack on the World Trade Center, in 1993.
Even today, as the U.S. says it is fostering a "broadly representative"
government to replace the Taliban, none have suggested that this include
any women's groups, let alone RAWA. Instead, the latest talk by the U.S. is
of incorporating "moderate" Taliban leaders.

FUNDAMENTALIST CHALLENGES IN EGYPT AND ALGERIA

Afghanistan and Iran are not the only countries to have come under the gun
of Islamic fundamentalism. Egypt, historically one of the most important
centers of Islamic culture, began to experience fundamentalist terrorism in
the early 1980s. In the 1970s, as he moved away from the left-wing and
pro-Russia policies of Gamel Abdel Nasser, Anwar Sadat courted the U.S.
abroad and the fundamentalists at home, the latter as a counterweight to
leftist groups that threatened his rule. However, his 1978 separate peace
with Israel outraged the fundamentalists, who assassinated him in 1981.
For the next two decades, a brutal war was fought between an increasingly
repressive Egyptian state under Hosni Mubarak and fundamentalist
terrorists. These fundamentalists had a real social base for a while,
taking over not only professional associations among lawyers, doctors, and
others, but also setting up social aid programs in the slums. At the same
time, their armed fanatics attacked secular, Marxist or feminist students
and intellectuals, driving them from the campuses. They nearly assassinated
Naguib Mahfouz, winner of the Nobel Prize for literature.
After the fundamentalists were defeated militarily, the Egyptian state kept
the repressive laws on the books, recently using them to attack Saad Eddin
Ibrahim, a secular human rights activist. At the same time, the government
has placated fundamentalist sentiment by allowing all kinds of demagogues
to preach on the airwaves and in officially sponsored mosques and
newspapers. Some former leftists have become fundamentalists, such as the
extremely popular preacher Mustafa Mahmoud. He has published the
notoriously anti-Semitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion and also stated
that Jews carried out the Sept. 11 attacks to discredit Muslims. The
fundamentalists have also harassed feminists such as Nawal el Saadawi by
filing lawsuits under the country's blasphemy laws.
Given this history, it is not surprising that many of Al Qaeda's members
are from Egypt, including the second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Some
also originate in Algeria, a country that also experienced fundamentalist
terror on a large scale during the 1990s. After fundamentalist parties won
the 1991 elections, the military government of Algeria refused to cede
power, touching off a civil war during which tens of thousands were killed.
The fundamentalists, who had soft-pedaled their fanaticism to win the
election, gave it full expression during the civil war, when they butchered
untold numbers of Marxists, socialists, feminists, union leaders, and
ordinary citizens.
One effect of such a war is to close off other forms of opposition to
military or capitalist rule, since the population, faced with a choice
between fundamentalist barbarism and "ordinary" dictatorship, usually
chooses the latter. In Algeria, it has been only with the defeat of the
fundamentalists that we have seen the re-emergence of the mass movement of
the Berber minority for democracy and cultural autonomy, a movement that
has brought up to one million onto the streets on several occasions.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

The danger we face today is that of a false choice between Bush's
militarism and Islamic fundamentalism, something that could not only derail
the modest beginnings we have seen from the new anti-globalization
demonstrations since Seattle, but also launch a new era of reaction
worldwide.
It is for this reason that the Left needs to fight hard to maintain its
independence from all state powers and from all who offer retrogressive
solutions. Too often, post-Marx Marxists have dismissed or forgotten Marx's
statement in the 1844 Essays on "the relationship of man to woman," where
he wrote that "on the basis of this relationship, we can judge the whole
stage of development of the human being."
By this standard, religious fundamentalism, whether Muslim or Jewish,
Christian or Hindu, is a retrogressive force that needs always to be
combated, even when it seems to oppose global imperialism. We need to take
seriously voices like that of Khalid Salimi of Islamabad: "At the roots of
most conflicts in Afghanistan and Pakistan are the rights of women. Men
simply don't see women as human beings" (Chicago Tribune, 10/17/01).
It is crucially important for us to support critically those forces on the
ground in the Middle East and South Asia that are fighting against
capitalism, fundamentalism, sexism, and military rule. These include groups
like RAWA in Afghanistan, the Berber movement in Algeria, the Egyptian
feminists, and the Labor Party of Pakistan, whose antiwar rally in October
included speakers from the Women's Action Forum and condemnations of
fundamentalism.
While opposing Bush's militarism and authoritarianism, we need also to
support the arrest and trial before an international court of reactionaries
like bin Laden and the dismantling of Al Qaeda, just as we have in the past
called for the arrest and trial of other war criminals like Ariel Sharon,
Slobodan Milosevic, the Rwandan genocidaires, and Henry Kissinger.
October 25, 2001


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"Human Power Is Its Own End."--Karl Marx

News and Letters Committees / NEWS &amp; LETTERS
36 S. Wabash, Room 1440
Chicago IL 60603

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I have been placing and collecting funds at these local businesses
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these stores and restaurants and when you see our blue boxes, put
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Lakeside Press, Nature's Bakery, Willy St. Co-op, Mifflin St. Co-op,
Magic Mill Grocery, Rainbow Bookstore Cooperative, Cafe Assisi,
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 From G. Orwell's 1984

"On the sixth day of Hate Week, after the processions, the speeches, the
shouting, the singing, the banners, the posters, the films, the waxworks,
the rolling of drums and squealing of trumpets, the tramp of marching feet,
the grinding of the caterpillars of tanks, the roar of massed planes, the
booming of guns - after six days of this, when the great orgasm was
quivering to its climax and the negeral hatered of Eurasia had boiled up
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thousand Eurasion war crimilas who were to be publicly hanged on the last
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and not Eurasia was the enemy. Winston was taking part in a demonstration at
one of the central London squares at the moment when it happened. It was
night, and the white square was packed with several thousand people....

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neck of the microphone with one hand while the other, enormous at the end of
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messages when a messenger hurried onto the platform and a scrap of paper ws
slipped into the speaker's hand. He unrolled it and read it without pausing
in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or manner, or in the content of
what he was saying, but suddenly the names were different. Without words
said, a wave of understanding rippled through the crowd. Oceana was at war
with Eastasia! The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners
and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half
of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of
Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were
ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot. The
Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over the rooftops and
cutting the streamers that fluttered from the chimneys. But within two or
three minutes it was all over. The orator, still gripping the neck of the
microphone, his shoulders hunched forward, his free hand clawing at the air,
had gone straight on with his speech. One minut more and the feral roars of
rage were again bursting from the crowd. The Hate continued exactly as
before, except that the target had been changed."

....


Anybody remember the last 4 words of the novel?
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Dear all,

Here's a sample of what's going on abroad.
Interesting.

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&gt;Date:         Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:19:51 -0000
&gt;From: =?iso-8859-2?B?SmFuIMh1bO1r?= &lt;jcu2@CABLEOL.CO.UK&gt;
&gt;Subject:      The Czech prosecute political views
&gt;To: SEELANGS@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
&gt;
&gt;Some of you might find it interesting how the Czech authorities are
&gt;criminalising verbal "approval" of the US terrorist attacks There are a
&gt;number of cases in the Czech Rep. where people have been charged with the
&gt;"crime" of "approving of a criminal offence", although the Czech Bill of
&gt;Rights guarantees freedom of speech.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;X
&gt;Dept of Slavonic Studies
&gt;University of Glasgow
&gt;
&gt;2nd November, 2001
&gt;Czech internet daily Britske listy reporter Tomas Pecina has now received a
&gt;summons for a police interrogation in connection with his verbal "approval
&gt;of the US attacks".
&gt;
&gt;The document is here, in Czech:
&gt;
&gt;http://www.blisty.cz/fax.php?id=97
&gt;
&gt;When the Czech police started prosecuting a right wing extremist Jan Kopal
&gt;for saying at a public rally in the northern city of Most on 15th September
&gt;2001 that the terrorist attacks served the US right becase it had for years
&gt;practices terrorism abroad, including the bombing of Serbia in 1999. Pecina
&gt;said that it is outrageous to prosecute people for expressing a view. In
&gt;support of the principle of freedom of speech, he has said that he
&gt;demonstratively also approves of the terrorist attacks.
&gt;
&gt;The District Prosecutor´s Office for Prague 2 has recently instructed the
&gt;Czech police to start investigating this "criminal case" and the Czech
&gt;Police has now invited Pecina for questioning, although it is obvious from
&gt;the documentation that Pecina´s statement is a demonstrative gesture, in
&gt;support of freedom of speeech
&gt;
&gt;In response to the summons, Pecina has sent an official complaint against
&gt;the police, pointing out that the Czech Bill of Rights guarantees freedom
of
&gt;speech and so people cannot be criminalised for expressing a view.
&gt;
&gt;Britske listy as published the protocol of of the extremist Jan Kopal´s
&gt;questioning by the police regarding this "verbal criminal offence". The
&gt;interview took place last week and the questions "What did you mean by
&gt;saying that..."  "Were you aware that TV cameras were present...?" were
&gt;rather reminiscent of pre-1989 communist police questions asked  of
&gt;interrogated dissidents.
&gt;
&gt;X
&gt;University of Glasgow
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;27th Oct. 2001:
&gt;
&gt;Czech police investigates grafitti for a possible criminal offence
&gt;
&gt;In the south eastern town of Zlin, the locals have alerted the police to
&gt;some grafitti on a city wall, an official space for making grafitti. A
&gt;picture of a man with what looks like a turban has recently appeared there,
&gt;with a sign "Solidarity with the people of Afghanistan!" The police is
&gt;trying to analyse whether it is a picture of Jimi Hendrix or of Osama bin
&gt;Laden. If they conclude that it is bin Laden, they will initiate criminal
&gt;proceedings against the authors of the picutre. See this article (the
&gt;picture in question is included).
&gt;
&gt;The picture of the graffiti is here:
&gt;http://www.flashnews.cz/index.php3?iid=10600&amp;detailclanku=43041
&gt;
&gt;X
&gt;
&gt;CZECH PROSECUTORS: APPROVING OF THE ACTS OF TERROR IN THE US IS A CRIMINAL
&gt;OFFENCE
&gt;
&gt;The Czech News Agency, 2nd October, 2001:
&gt;
&gt;Approval of the recent terrorist acts against the United States can be
&gt;qualified as a criminal offence. But when investigating these cases,
&gt;prosecutors will have sensitively to look for a borderline between freedom
&gt;of speech and a criminal act. Representatives of the Regional, Higher
&gt;Prosecutor´s Offices and the General Prosecutor´s Office agreed on this in
&gt;Brno today,
&gt;
&gt;"We are all in agreement that the Criminal Code makes it possible to
&gt;prosecute culprits [verbally approving of the terrorist attacks in the US]
&gt;under several sections," said Lumir Crha, the Deputy of the Prosecutor
&gt;General.
&gt;
&gt;Crha said that this criminal activity is "a new thing in the Czech
&gt;Republic". The aim of prosecuting the autors of the remarks [approving of
&gt;terrorist acts] is not, in Crha´s view, suppression of freedom of speech.
&gt;"It is necessary to realise that it is only possible to use one´s freedom
of
&gt;speech until the moment when a criminal offence is being committed," said
&gt;Crha. He said that it is necessary to distinguish between "constructive
&gt;criticism" of the United States and the approval of the attacks.
&gt;
&gt;Czech Justice Secretary Jaromir Bures has recently said that statements
made
&gt;by the ultra right-wing Chairman of the National Social Block, Jan Kopal,
&gt;approving of the terrorist attacks can be classified as a criminal offence
&gt;of "supporting terrorism".
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;"Idnes", 1st October 2001:
&gt;
&gt;http://zpravy.idnes.cz/domaci.asp?r=domaci&amp;c=A011001_145734_domaci_nad&amp;t=A0
1
&gt;
&gt;LEAFLETS APPROVING OF TERORISM WERE FOUND IN THE POST OFFICE!
&gt;
&gt;Liberec, Northern Bohemia: Three leaflets whose author approves of the
&gt;terrorist attacks against the USA, were discovered by employees of the Post
&gt;Office in Liberec amongst letters. The Post Office Employees immediately
&gt;handed these leaflets to the police. "They were normal sheets of paper with
&gt;capital letters on them, written with a felt tip pen," said the Liberec
&gt;police spokesperson Vlasta Suchankova. "We have sent the leaflets to the
&gt;Prague criminological institute for analysis."
&gt;
&gt;The leaflets literally [sic] said: "George Bush = a fundamentalist and
&gt;creator of a war hysteria! The United States themselves are to blame for
&gt;this! Innocent people have died! The US have armed the terrorists
&gt;themselves! Let the US start with criticism in their own back yard! The
&gt;regime in the Czech Republic wishes to put into prison people who disagree
&gt;with US politics. People, beware of such a regime! It is afraid of the
&gt;truth! Such a regime should end. The Fourth Resistance Movement."
&gt;
&gt;Anyone could have thrown these leaflets into a letterbox, said the police
&gt;spokeswoman. They were not in sealed envelopes.
&gt;
&gt;Two days after the attacks against the United States someone stuck a poster
&gt;on the door of the [conservative] MP Jiri Drda (ODS). The poster appealed
&gt;for support for bin Laden. "The United States is responsible for the
&gt;suffering of the Third World and so our first act was directed against the
&gt;US - there will be further acts, aimed against all the countries of the
&gt;Euroatlantic civilisation," the poster said.
&gt;
&gt;The Prague Institute of Criminology has now produced a report which says
&gt;that it might be possible to ascertain on what equipment the poster had
been
&gt;manufactured. :)
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;The Czech News Agency, 2nd October, 2001:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/view-id.php4?id=20011002E00706&amp;tbl=zpravy&amp;kostra=
l
&gt;etáky
&gt;
&gt;FURTHER LEAFLETS IN LIBEREC
&gt;
&gt;Further three handwritten leaflets approving the terrorist attack against
&gt;the United States appeared in Liberec. The police spokesperson Vlasta
&gt;Suchankova said that the police sent them to Usti nad Labem for a
&gt;criminological and graphological anaysis.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;24th September, 2001:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;THE CZECHS HAVE CHARGED INDIVIDUALS WHO APPROVE OF THE TERRORIST ACTS IN
THE
&gt;US
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Home Secretary Stanislav Gross told the media that the police will be
&gt;prosecuting Jan Kopal and other right wing radicals for saying that the
&gt;United States has been justifiably attacked by  terrorists. These
&gt;individuals are to be prosecuted on the basis of Article 165 of the Penal
&gt;Code: (He who publicly approves of a criminal offence or who publicly
&gt;praises a perpetrator of a criminal offence will be punished by
imprisonment
&gt;of up to one year.)
&gt;
&gt;Main Evening News, Czech TV, Wednesday 19th September:
&gt;
&gt;"Jan Kopal, Chairman of the extreme right wing National Social Bloc has
been
&gt;charged by the prosecutor in the city of Most for approving of a criminal
&gt;offence. If found guilty, Kopal can be imprisoned for a year. During a
&gt;demonstration which took place on Saturday 15th Septemer, Kopal said: "A
&gt;country like the United States which committed so much evil in the past,
&gt;which essentially has been supporting international terrorism and
&gt;participated in missions like Yugoslavia where innocent civilians were
being
&gt;murdered does not deserve anything else but such an attack." He also said
&gt;that Osama bin Laden should become an example for Czech children. The Czech
&gt;government is preparing measures against individuals who approve of the
&gt;terrorist attacks against the United States."
&gt;
&gt;Nova TV, Main Evening News, Wednesday 19th September:
&gt;
&gt;"Rather serious were the statements made by Jan Kopal, Chairman of the
&gt;National Social Block, who said of the United States at the weekend that a
&gt;country which has supported international terrorism deserves such a
&gt;terrorist attack. Kopal has now been charged. The police now warns
&gt;especially young people that they should not be chanting slogans,
especially
&gt;at football matches, approving of the attack against the United States.
Such
&gt;behaviour will be harshly punished."
&gt;
&gt;Czech Television, Main Evening News Thursday 20th September:
&gt;
&gt;"The police has arrested two 18-year old youths who chanted slogans
&gt;celebrating the terrorist attacks against the US at Hlavateho Street in
&gt;Prague 4 on Wednesday night. One of the youths has hit a policemen on the
&gt;shoulder. The youths have been charged with hooliganism and with assaulting
&gt;public officials. If found guilty, they can be sentenced to three years´
&gt;imprisonment."
&gt;
&gt;Britske listy, 21st September 2001:
&gt;
&gt;Tomas Pecina: It is rather doubtful how the Czech authorities wish to
&gt;prosecute this "crime of approving a criminal offence" since according to
&gt;Articles 17-20 of the Penal Code it is impossible to use Czech law to judge
&gt;the criminality or otherwise of  acts committed by foreign nationals on
&gt;foreign territory. It is not possible to use another country´s Code of Law,
&gt;because thus for instance expressing support for imprisoned Cuban dissidens
&gt;would be an offence of "approving of a criminal act".
&gt;
&gt;Tomas Pecina: Since I am of the opinion that human rights are indivisible,
I
&gt;cannot react otherwise but in the sense of Kennedy´s statement "Ich bin ein
&gt;Berliner". I avail myself of my right of freedom of speech, guaranteed by
&gt;Article 17 of the Czech Bill of Rights and Freedoms and I hereby proclaim
&gt;that I approve of the terrorist attack, carried out on 11th September 2001
&gt;against the United States.I wish to be prosecuted in the same way as Jan
&gt;Kopal.
&gt;
&gt;A collaborator of Britske listy Helena Svatosova will submit a official
&gt;complaint against Tomas Pecina to the authorities, proposing that he be
&gt;prosecuted for his statement.
&gt;
&gt;Although we naturally disapprove of Mr. Kopal´s comments, we feel that he
&gt;must not be prosecuted for merely expressing his views and are ready to
&gt;defend the democratic right of freedom of speech in the interests of
&gt;democracy in the Czech Republic. It is intolerable to think that people
&gt;should be again afraid to express their views for fear of criminal
&gt;prosecution.
&gt;
&gt;Under Czech law and in the current atmosphere in the Czech Republic, Pecina
&gt;will probably be found guilty.
&gt;
&gt;X
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Mlada fronta Dnes, 11th August, 2001:
&gt;
&gt;http://www.mfdnes.cz/mfdomov.asp?c=186mfdomov_2_
&gt;
&gt;"A man could be sent to prison for praising nationalisation.
&gt;
&gt;Sumperk. - The District Investigator´s Office in Sumperk will hand over to
&gt;the State Prosecutor the case of 23-year old communist activist David
Pecha.
&gt;Pecha is being charged for promoting a movement aiming to suppress
&gt;citizens´rights and freedoms, for slander and for spreading alarmist views.
&gt;In the Pochoden (Torch) periodical, Pecha sang the praises of communism and
&gt;called for the return of the old order, even by means of a military
&gt;struggle. "On Monday, the State Prosecutor will have the file with the
&gt;proposal to prosecute Pecha on his desk," said investigator Vlastimil
Flasar
&gt;yesterday.
&gt;
&gt;Since November 1989, this has been the first case where the authorities are
&gt;prosecuting a left-wing extremist for promoting communism. So far, the
&gt;police has been using the article of the Criminal Code, which outlaws the
&gt;promotion of non-democratic movements only to prosecute  skinheads who have
&gt;praised Hitler and fascism. If found guilty, Pecha could be sentenced to up
&gt;to eight years´ imprisonment. Among other things, Pecha has said in the
&gt;Pochoden newspaper and on the internet that Czech soldiers who disobey
&gt;orders could be, under state of war, shot for insubordination, according to
&gt;NATO guidelines. Pìcha has also said that about a dozen leading Czech
&gt;politicians are criminals and traitors."
&gt;
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Hey everyone,

Of all the viewpoints that I've run across, this is one of the most
disturbing.  There is an internet group called "The Edge"
	http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow.html
and they are composed of a bunch of intellectual elite (from the looks of
it, middle-aged white males) that discuss philosophical and scientific
topics "to arrive at the edge of the world's knowledge".  Anyways, I ran
into this via the homepage of one of the contributors - a prominent
physicist David Deutsch.  I have included a little snippet of his reply to
the Edge question "What Now?" [regarding post 911 tactics].  It's really
appalling.  He is incredibly deluded to think that "moral relativism" is a
major cause of the 911 terrorist attacks.  He considers the acts of "the
west" to be purely in self-defense, while the terrorist acts were purely
evil.  I think that it is important for MAPC to understand these
arguments, and to systematically break them down.  In fact, I think it
would be a great move of outreach to start taking the best pro-war
articles and analyze them and post them on the web.  Regardless, here's
the link and a glimpse of the delusional state of mind representative of
many of the intellectual elite of the west - yikes.

http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow/whatnow_deutsch.html

There is no "cycle of violence" that we have to "break" by making the
murderers and their sympathisers feel less angry with us. Their anger is
unjustified: To cleanse the Arabian peninsula of non-Muslims is an immoral
aim, violating the human rights both of non-Muslim residents and of
Muslims who wish to associate with them (and, perhaps more pertinently, to
seek their assistance in defending themselves). To cleanse Israel of Jews
is an aspiration similar in kind but much more evil both in its racist
motivation and in its intention to destroy an entire nation. To replace
secular or less-than-fundamentalist governments by religious
fundamentalist ones in all Islamic countries is an utterly tyrannical
agenda. And there is a fourth unjustified 'grievance' that goes implicitly
with those three: they demand the right to punish the West, by mass
murder, with impunity, if anyone in the West opposes them in pursuing any
of those other 'grievances'.

In contrast, the West's anger, and the West's restrained, careful and
humane response in self-defence, are justified. The problem is not to find
alternatives to defending ourselves against murderers. The exact opposite
is true: this violence will end if and only if we defend ourselves,
effectively. And effectiveness will depend in part on our saying
truthfully what we are doing, and why our stance is not essentially the
same as theirs.

You can perceive our stance and theirs as symmetrical only by expunging
morality from your analysis: seeing all political objectives as being
legitimate, all rival value systems as matters of taste, treating
murderers and their victims with evenhanded sympathy. You have to look at
tolerance and its opposite, intolerance, and pretend that they are two
versions of the same thing. You have to pretend that the richness and
diversity and creativity of our civilisation are playing the same role in
our lives as empty repetition, oppression, and pitiless enforcement of a
monoculture play in theirs.

People wring their hands and say that there must be "better ways of
finding solutions" than warfare. Of course there are. We have already
found them. The nations and people of the West use them all the time. They
are openness, tolerance, reason, respect for human rights -- the
fundamental institutions of our civilisation. But no way of finding
solutions is so effective that it can work when it isn't being used. And
when a violent group defines itself by its comprehensive rejection of all
the values on which problem-solving and the peaceful resolution of
disputes depend, and embarks instead on a campaign of unlimited murder and
destruction, it is morally wrong as well as factually inaccurate to
represent this as a case of our needing "better ways of finding
solutions". That is why we have to insist, by force if necessary, that
everyone else in the world also respect, and enforce, the minimum
standards of civilisation and human rights. Western standards.


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