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              <text>Folks -
Please read the following message before circulating any further the piece about Nancy Oden being detained at an airport in Maine.    The facts in the case are unclear - and we've decided to withhold any judgment about the case until we can get to the bottom of it.  Appearances are that the incident has been way overblown.  This said, the police riot in Hartford last week was a fairly serious incident, and very well-documented, and clearly DID target Green Party leadership in town, as well as other organizers in the local movement.
Anyway, here's an alternative point of view from Walt Sheasby, a California Green:
The Nov. 3 article from the Bangor Daily News seems to 
establish that Nancy Oden was not targetted because of 
having been flagged in a computer search. If that were the 
case, it would have profound consequences, and the small 
incident at the Bangor airport would be a harbinger of an 
even worse stampede toward a police state than Bush and 
the Republicrats have urged. 
The exaggeration of the hassle caused by Nancy Oden's 
apparent ire at being screened (something we all sympathize 
with) into a case of being apprehended by a computer plugged 
into the FBI's Most Wanted List of terrorists and their supporters 
is indefensible, and the GPUSA owes an apology to all anti-war 
groups. Crying "wolf!" in these difficult times is very irresponsible. 
As far as is known at this time, no U.S. anti-war or anti-globalization 
have been put on the list created by the FBI for the Patriot Act 
implementation. 
A similar alarmist report to GPUSA's has been made recently that 
the "Anarchist Faction" has been targeted on the new list. Actually, 
this is a specific group in Greece which has been responsible for 
bombings and assassinations. They have nothing whatsoever to do 
with the anti-capitalist globalization protests. The full and proper 
name of the group is "The Anarchist Faction for Subversion." 
The Patriot Act must be repealed, and the left must unify in demanding 
this from our representatives in Congress. But exaggeration has never 
been of any help, and paranoia only serves the cause of the "terrorists" 
holed up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Together we can smoke them 
from their cave, and that means a united campaign for the Presidency 
in 2004 by the Green Party of the United States and its supporters. 
And in 2002 there must be hundreds of anti-war candidates running as 
Greens. This will be our best chance to turn around public opinion and 
make sure that it is the hawks of war who are targeted as Public 
Enemies. 
Viva la Causa Verde! 
Walt Contreras Sheasby 
LEADER OF GREEN SPLINTER GROUP FIBS ABOUT AIRPORT HASSLE 
In an official press release from its Chicago headquarters, the Greens/Green 
Party USA, a small splinter group that opposes recognition of the Green Party 
of the United States as the electoral voice of the movement that ran Ralph 
Nader for President in 2000, declared that one of its leaders was stopped 
from boarding a flight after a check turned up her name was on a computer 
list because the organization opposes the U.S. bombing of Afhanistan. The 
release said: 
&lt;Armed government agents grabbed Nancy Oden, Green Party USA 
coordinating committee member, Thursday at Bangor International Airport 
in Bangor Maine, as she attempted to board an American Airlines flight to 
Chicago. 
"An official told me that my name had been flagged in the computer," a 
shaken Oden said. "I was targeted because the Green Party USA opposes 
the bombing of innocent civilians in Afghanistan."&gt; 
The press release was relayed around the nation as a first signal of the reach 
of the new draconian Patriot Act. But it turns out that Nancy Oden was 
apparently not barred because of a computer check, but because she did 
not comply with standard screening for weapons. While who said what is 
not clear, it appears that her name was not flagged by a computer search 
of potential terrorists or their supporters, according to a news report 
in the Bangor Daily News on Nov. 3. 
While the undue harassment of airline travelers is to be condemned, it does 
not seem that this incident warrants fears of a major violation of Constitutional 
guarantees of free speech, as it first appeared. The group that Nancy Oden 
leads is nevertheless using the incident to draw attention and support to itself. 
One member of the group's National Council urged: 
&lt;The first thing to do is to organize a committee, include spokesperson/ 
spokespersons. Contact civil liberties organizations including the National 
Lawyers Guild, the ACLU ... Ask organizaitons to sponsor defense 
committee- Seek prominent attorney who may need to have a license to 
practice in Maine- Send releases out every day. Has Ralph Nader been 
contacted? What about Phil Donahue CONTACT TALK SHOWS. TRY 
TO GET POLITICIANS TO SUPPORT, Barbara Lee. Organizations in 
Maine who know Nancy and will back her up.&gt; 
If the incident had taken place as Nancy Oden described it, it would mean 
that other Green activists and leaders of other anti-war groups would also 
be on computer lists and barred from flying, which reportedly has not been 
the case. The exaggeration of her victimization may only serve to discredit 
opposition to the Bush Administration's attack on civil liberties. 
It may also further isolate the Green Party USA, which saw a majority of 
delegates at its July 20 National Convention leave to form a new Green 
Alliance, which has its first convention in New Orleans January 18-21. 
From the Bangor Daily News, Nov. 3, 2001: 
http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.html?ID=44958 
Green Party activist denied Chicago flight 
BANGOR â¤" Green Party activist Nancy Oden was grounded at Bangor 
International Airport on Thursday after reportedly becoming uncooperative 
when she was targeted for additional screening. 
Oden, who said she believed she was singled out for extra scrutiny because 
of her activist past and public opposition to the current war effort, was 
on her way to Chicago to attend a Green Party USA meeting when airline 
personnel told her that she had been selected to undergo added security 
screening before boarding. 
â¤oeI was treated if I were guilty just because Iâ¤(tm)m a dissident and I speak 
out,â¤? Oden, a middle-aged woman who sits on the partyâ¤(tm)s national 
coordinating committee, said from her Jonesboro home after she had 
abandoned her travel plans. â¤oeTheyâ¤(tm)re looking at me like Iâ¤(tm)m a terrorist and 
Iâ¤(tm)m just a peaceful person trying to go to a meeting in Chicago.â¤? 
Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, security has been tightened at all 
the nationâ¤(tm)s airports â¤" including BIA, where armed National Guardsmen 
monitor the screening area and passenger lists are checked against the 
FBIâ¤(tm)s terrorist watch list. 
Officials at BIA and American Eagle Airlines have a much different account 
of Odenâ¤(tm)s afternoon run-in with the added security. 
â¤oeShe was uncooperative during the screening process,â¤? said American Eagle 
spokesman Kurt Iverson, who added that Oden reportedly would not stand 
still when security staff tried to wave a metal-detecting wand over her. 
â¤oeObviously if they canâ¤(tm)t submit to screening, [Federal Aviation 
Administration] regulations require that they not be allowed to board the 
plane.â¤? 
Oden said that while she asked security staff not to touch her with the 
wand, she did allow them to complete their search of both her person and 
her baggage. Oden said that she did pull away from a National Guardsman 
when he grabbed her left arm and asked her if she â¤oeknew what happened on 
September 11,â¤? she said. 
While acknowledging that Oden was singled out for added extensive 
screening, authorities said it was more likely due to the manner in which 
she purchased her ticket than for her activist past. Under newly adopted 
FAA regulations, more passengers â¤" either randomly or based on a 
computerized profile â¤" are being targeted for more intense screening 
during the boarding process. 
While industry officials were unwilling to release the criteria under which 
they would profile a passenger, they said the criteria did not include 
federally protected characteristics such as race, religion, age or sex. 
Without providing details, interim airport director Rebecca Hupp said that 
the FAA guidelines â¤oehave more to do with the ticket than the person.â¤? For 
instance, one airline official said, a passenger who pays cash for a ticket 
the day of the flight would likely undergo added scrutiny. Oden bought her nonrefundable ticket online, she said. 
While an FBI spokeswoman would neither confirm nor deny the presence of 
any name on the terrorist watch list â¤" another trigger for added security 
response â¤" one law enforcement source said it was â¤oeextremely unlikelyâ¤? 
Oden was on the list of potential terrorists because her name is unknown to 
the FBI. 
After the incident, Oden was told she could not take her scheduled flight 
to Chicago, and that she could not travel on any other airline at the 
airport that day. 
â¤oeIf I had done something wrong, they should have arrested me instead of 
denying me my right to travel,â¤? an upset Oden said Friday. â¤oeWeâ¤(tm)re losing 
more of our rights and people donâ¤(tm)t realize it.â¤?
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I am hereby requesting the media committee to send a letter to the Editor to
Isthmus on behalf of the MAPC.

The letter (or e-mail) should go out in time to get in the next issue.
Perhaps e-mailing this Monday or Tuesday would work.


Draft Letter Text Suggestion:

"
Dear Editor:
     Alexander Cockburn (11/02/01 'U.S. eyes sheer torture') notes that the
United States government has sheltered torturers around the world.  One way
the government has done this is through the Army School of the Americas in
Fort Benning, Georgia, long a U.S. military training school for torture
techniques.  The School's graduates have gone on to mastermind torture and
death squads in their home countries in Latin America.  In fact, the alumni
form a who's who of notorious human rights abusers in the region.  For ten
years, American citizens have protested the School of the Americas outside
Fort Benning on a Saturday in November.
     This year Madisonians can join in a Peace Parade in solidarity with the
eleventh annual School of the Americas protest.  It is being held at MATC
Truax at noon on Saturday, November 17th.  For more information call
835-7501 or go to www.madpeace.org.

Sincerely,
Madison Area Peace Coalition

Media Contact:  X, etc."

_________________________________________________________________
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PLEASE FORWARD.

The war in Afghanistan is far from over.  It simply has moved into a new
phase since the US has not succeeded in pacifying the country and
reintegrating it back into the "global system".  The killing, the
massacres and the starvation, will continue as will the inter-ethnic
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School of the Americas goes on and the new repressive legislation, the
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will continue well into the future.

It is VITALLY IMPORTANT that we get a large turnout at MATC/TRUAX on
Saturday!  Continue to spread the word and do come!


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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PLEASE FORWARD.

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massacres and the starvation, will continue as will the inter-ethnic
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It is VITALLY IMPORTANT that we get a large turnout at MATC/TRUAX on
Saturday!  Continue to spread the word and do come!


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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IT AIN'T OVER 'TILL IT'S OVER:
What to watch for in Afghanistan

By X

The fall of Kabul and other Afghan
cities has led many Americans to
believe that the war is swiftly drawing to a
close.  The U.S. media is creating the
impression that the takeover has brought 23
years of war, instability and oppression to an
end. Nothing could be farther from
the truth.  Paraphrasing Yogi Berra,
the war ain't over 'till it's over.

First, in a country that traditionally
has lacked centralized authority, the takeover
of the capital city does not yet mean the
conquest of all of Afghanistan.  Taliban
forces are regrouping in and around their
de facto capital of Kandahar,
where some factions plan to wage a
guerrilla war.  Afghans did not beat
the British and Russian invaders by
holding the cities, but by waging ferocious
resistance from mountain strongholds.
If Taliban or other Pashtun fighters launch a
Chechen-style hit-and-run defense, the
war could drag on for years.
The result of a new guerrilla war
would be the complete ethnic partition
of Afghanistan into a Pashtun south and
non-Pashtun north.  The media has highlighted
the renewed food aid shipments into
Afghanistan, but without noting that food
has been used by all sides as a weapon,
with militias seizing aid
shipments for their supporters, and blocking
food from their enemy's territory.

Second, the Northern Alliance rebels' seizure
of Kabul merely resets the clock
back to 1992, when as the mujahadin
they took the city from Najibullah's Communists.
Not only did the non-Pashtun mujahadin
execute Pashtuns, and legislate the first
limits on women's rights, but they quickly
turned on each other.  Their four years of
in-fighting left 50,000 dead, and led Afghans
and the West to welcome the Taliban as
stabilizing "liberators" in 1996. Since then,
Northern Alliance rebels have had a reputation
as corrupt "looters and rapists," according
to a recent statement by the Revolutionary
Association of Women of Afghanistan
(RAWA), and have taken control
of up to 80 percent of Afghanistan's
opium trade.  The returning Northern
Alliance rebels are again executing Pashtuns
in the city, much as returning Albanians
attacked Serbs in Kosovo two years ago.
But the Northern Alliance seizure
of Kabul gives it a central role in any new
Afghan "coalition" government, because
possession is nine-tenths of the law.

Third, even if the U.S. or U.N. manages
to form a shaky "coalition" government,
the conflict may only restart, as
it did in 1992 and in 1996.  All Afghan
ethnic and political factions will assume
their claim to power will be recognized by
the U.S. powerbrokers. When they realize that
Washington intends to split the difference, some of
them may quickly turn on their former allies.
Washington attempted to build a multiethnic coalition
under the aging King Zahir Shah in
1992, and failed miserably.  It tried to build
a similar coalition that same year in Somalia.
One of the fundamental errors made
by the U.S. in Somalia was an assumption that
its unifying intentions would magically satisfy
all militia factions.  The other mistake it made
was to only recognize militia warlords as
legitimate political players, and ignore civil society
and clan elders. An Afghan regime that only patches
together the guys with the guns, and leaves out the
vast majority of Afghan women and men,
will merely reward the past two decades of
violence, and set up up another U.N. "peacekeeping"
force for failure.

The West supported the mujahadin takeover
of Kabul in 1992, the Taliban takeover in 1996,
and now the Northern Alliance takeover
in 2001. Its aims were usually to  "liberate"
Afghanistan from the last regime it supported.
Washington's initial support for militant Islamist
groups in Afghanistan
(like Israel's support of Hamas, and Egypt's
support of the Muslim Brotherhood) ultimately
blew up in its face.  Yet because the militant Islamists
are today virtually the force exploiting
public opposition to poverty, corruption,
and foreign occupation in the Muslim world,
repressing them only legitimizes their growing
popularity. Instead of backing or repressing far-right
Islamic populist groups, the West and its
client governments could be posing popular alternatives
to draw frustrated citizens away from them.
Instead, the U.S. is merely
repeating old mistakes by crushing the Taliban,
while hailing new Islamist militant groups such
as the Northern Alliance.

But there is a method to this madness, more
to U.S. aims in the region than is readily apparent.
Afghanistan has historically been in an
extremely strategic location straddling South Asia,
Central Asia, and the Middle East. Will the U.S.
attempt to use the current crisis to establish a permanent
presence in the region?
Each recent large U.S. intervention has left behind a
string of new military bases in a region where
they had never before had a foothold  The
Gulf War left behind large U.S. bases in
Saudi Arabia and three other Gulf states--the main
Bin Laden grievance that fueled the September 11 attacks.
Military interventions in former Yugoslavia resulted in
U.S. bases in four countries, including
the sprawling Camp Bondsteel complex in
Kosovo.  Were the military bases merely
built to aid the interventions, or did the interventions
occur partly in order to station the bases?

The U.S. military is inserting itself into
strategic areas of the world, and anchoring U.S.
geopolitical influence in these areas, at a very critical
time in history.  With the rise of a new
European economic superpower, and
increased economic competition from
East Asia, U.S. economic power is perhaps
on the wane.  But in military affairs,
the U.S. is still the unquestioned superpower.
Why not project that military dominance
into new strategic regions as
a future counterweight to its competitors?
French President Jacques Chirac
correctly viewed the U.S. role in the Persian
Guld as securing control over oil sources
for Europe and Japan. Afghanistan lies
along a proposed Unocal pipeline route
from new Caspian Sea oil fields to the Indian
Ocean.  Allied checkpoints are now being
set up along the Afghan highways that
would serve as potential routes for the
pipeline.

Major tests for U.S. policy lie in the days
and weeks ahead.  Will special forces switch
to fighting against guerrillas in Afghani
or Pakistani mountains?  Will Bush
flatten Kandahar like Putin flattened the
Chechen capital of Grozny last year?
Will the Northern Alliance be allowed
to dominate Kabul (like the Kosovo
Liberation Army became the UN "police
force" in  Kosovo)?  Will a new "coalition"
government stay together, or only give a
seat at the table to anyone carrying a
Kalashnikov or RPG launcher?

Will Bin Laden really be captured, or
(like Saddam) be allowed to live in order
to justify a permanent stationing of U.S. troops?
Will anthrax be used as a new
excuse to bomb and invade Iraq?
Finally, will the new U.S. military
bases in Afghanistan, Uzbekistan,
Tajikistan and Pakistan become permanent
outposts guarding a new oil infrastructure?
A failure of the U.S. to pull out of the region
after the war, to leave behind a government
that truly represents Afghani civilians, or
to lure Muslims away from militant
groups, will only give impetus to new
Bin Ladens, and to future September 11s.


X is a doctoral candidate in
Geography at the University of Wisconsin-Madison,
and a member of the South-West Asia
Information Group.
X


Also see:
A history of biochemical weapons
http://madison.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1522&amp;group=webcast
List of U.S. military interventions since 1890
http://www.zmag.org/list2.htm
A briefing on the history of U.S. interventions
http://www.zmag.org/grossmanciv.htm
Afghanistan is not simply like Vietnam
http://www.badgerherald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2001/09/30/3bb7cc953e5bd

WORT interview with Robert Fisk
http://madison.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1127&amp;group=webcast
WORT interview with Ahmed Rashid
http://madison.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1272&amp;group=webcast








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I made a few pages devoted to the Logo discussion it's here:

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"We see the same intolerance of dissent, the same mad global ambitions,
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Hello,

	I know many people are worried about the "law and order"
response to the Peace Parade scheduled for this coming Sat. (11/17)
at 12:00 Noon outside the gates of Truax Air Force Base near MATC in
Madison.  It is hard to predict what will happen.  Having been in
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be exactly the same by the police.

	In terms of direct action, I agree with many others that the
"least threatening" tactics are preferable.  Personally, I'm not in
favor of blocking the gates, climbing the fence, or otherwise
creating a situation where authorities feel compelled to respond
and/or arrest people.  Of course, they could still pepperspray
someone for merely carrying a bouquet of flowers - such are the times
we live in...

At any rate, three relatively "mellow" and somewhat "fun" direct
action tactics people have been tossing around for Saturday's event
include:

1.) Decorating the fence with statements of resistance, demands for
peace, etc. etc. - this could include poems, quotes, balloons, paper
cranes, posters, large photos of Afghani children, etc. etc.  This
tactic worked very well in Quebec at the FTAA protests and got a lot
of media coverage.

2.) Mock minefield with similar looking "cluster bombs" and "food
packages" strewn along the roadside and entrance that people could
pick up and discover their fate by reading the explanation on the
bottom.  The UW Greens in conjunction with the International Campaing
to Ban Landmines has done similar mock minefields on UW Library Mall
with a good public response.

3.) Propaganda flights with people making paper "F-16s" out of copies
of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, Geneva Convention, photos of
refugees, etc. etc. and tossing them over the fence.  This tactic has
been used by solidarity groups  - a common nickname is the "Zapatista
Airforce."

	At any rate, these "mild" direct action tactics (and possible
others) I hope can be discussed at the Student Youth Caucus meeting
tonight and at the full MAPC meeting tomorrow.  Hopefully, there is
enough space and trust within the coalition umbrella for such
activities to occur.

						Thanks - X, Madison
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If you have a car and are goping to the "Peace Parade" at MATC/Truax on
November 17th, would you help getting people there?  The idea is to have
two pick-up locations:  One at the UW memorial Uniuon and one at Willy
Street Co-op.  We want to provide rides for those without vehicles and
reduce the number of cars that have to go out to the north side.  We would
ask those needing rides to come to one of the "pick-up points" @ 11:30
where they'll be able to hook up with people driving to the gathering.

If you have a vehicle and are willing to take some other folks along,
please contact me. Include a phone number. Also, if you need a ride, send
a message as well.

Thanks,
-X


_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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Friday marks the first anniversary of the weekly vigil on the U.W. Library
Mall in solidarity with Palestine.

None of us, when we began, anticipated that we would be gathering a year
later.  Nor did we expect to see that the situation on the ground in the
Occupied West Bank and Gaza would be worse.

Despite all rhetoric from the Bush administration, the war drive against
Afghanistan has allowed the Israelis to escalate their all out attacks on
Palestine towns and villages. The level of state terror -- home
destructions, assaults on non-combattants, casualties -- has actually
increased despite warnings from the US.

Our presence, our visibility, our voice is more important than ever at
this time when so much attention has been drawn away from
Israel/Palestine.  Please come this Friday, any time between 11:30 and
1:00pm.  Bring signs calling for an end to the Occupation and an end to US
"aid" to Israel.  Drees in black.
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Hi all!

Just a heads up that the MAPC logo will be on the agenda for Tuesday night's
general membership meeting, and a few comments (okay, I lied - lots of
comments) since I may not be able to attend the whole meeting.

While (AFAIK) we've never voted on this, the peace sign wrapped around the
globe has become the de facto MAPC logo.  (IIRC the general membership
referred the logo question back to the Arts &amp; Culture WG, and they couldn't
come up with anything better.)

The Student/Youth Caucus has objected to this logo, and designed a new one,
which will be presented on Tuesday.  (As I understand it, the problem is
that the peace sign is tied to a particular historic era, and carries
baggage which is too hippie-ish -- as opposed to activist.  There is also
concern that the grey-scale of the logo does not reduce or reproduce well.)
Their proposed logo has a half-globe, without peace sign, with paler images
of the globe radiating out from it.  (Lousy description, I know.)

I sympathize with the S/YC's objections, but I like their proposed graphic
even less than the one we've been using.  To me, it's not particularly
distinctive, and a globe alone just doesn't say "peace" to me.  It could
just as easily be the logo graphic for a global telecommunications
corporation.

Then again, I'm not sure that any graphic we pick to represent
"peace/anti-war" will be acceptable to and truly representative of the whole
Coalition.  The Vietnam-era peace sign is, well, Vietnam era, and doesn't
represent the new generation of activists.  The dove has a longer history,
but strikes me as a bit too "Pacifist" in image, as does the rifle with a
flower in its barrel, broken rifle, broken bomb, and a few others.  The
other predominant image from the Vietnam era, the clenched fist, of course,
has the opposite connotation.  We've already been through the discussion of
incorporating the symbolism of the American flag; some of us think "peace is
patriotic" and others of us think U.S. nationalism is part of the problem.
And while the globe could well be something that none of us object to, it
really doesn't symbolize anything that distinguishes us from the other side.

"Madison area" is tough to symbolize graphically.  The most identifiable
symbols are architectural (the State Capitol), and we have nothing to do
with state government.  Doing something with the outline of the state and
highlighting the Madison area really doesn't work graphically.  And I doubt
that anyone would recognize that a satellite view of the Four Lakes was
anything other than a Rorschach inkblot test.

We could try to have a symbol for everyone, incorporating lots of different
images in the logo, but the result would likely be an unwieldy mess.

My personal opinion at this point is that we should either (1)come up with a
graphic that is brand new -- no baggage from past movements or ideologies --
(and I have no earthly idea what this would be); or (2) just go with a
"words-only" logo, using a very distinctive typestyle and arrangement of the
words in our organization name.  If the typestyle and arrangement are
distinctive enough, IMO the logo will be recognizeable and identifiable, and
would avoid the symbolism &amp; baggage problems inherent in selecting any
graphic image for a diverse coalition.

X



_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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Hello,

	Below is an electronic version (available at www.abffe.com) 
of a letter recently sent to booksellers nationwide from the American 
Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression (ABFFE) based in NYC.  It 
speaks volumes about the climate of fear and imposed political 
conformity that has been precipitated by the counter-terrorism 
legislation.  I fear further erosion of our civil liberties lies 
ahead - don't take anything for granted anymore in this "democracy"...

						- X, Madison

*************************

November 1, 2001

Dear Bookseller,

Last week, President Bush signed into law an antiterrorism bill that 
gives the federal government expanded authority to search your 
business records, including the titles of the books purchased by your 
customers. This letter contains
our best legal judgment on what you should do if you are served with 
a court order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Under the new law, the director of the FBI may seek an order "for any 
tangible things (including books, records, papers, documents, and 
other items) for an investigation to protect against international 
terrorism or clandestine
intelligence activities." The request for such an order is made to a 
judge who sits in a special court that is sometimes called the "spy 
court." The judge makes his decision "ex parte," meaning there is no 
opportunity for you or your
lawyer to object in court. You cannot object publically either. The 
new law includes a gag order that prevents you from disclosing "to 
any other person" the fact that you have received an order to produce 
documents.

ABFFE is deeply concerned by the potential chilling effect of court 
orders issued to booksellers under this new law. Normally, when a 
bookseller receives a subpoena for customer information, he or she 
has the opportunity to ask the
court to quash the order on First Amendment grounds. In several 
cases, booksellers have successfully resisted subpoenas.

Under FISA, however, booksellers may not have this chance. Depending 
on the wording of the order, the bookseller may be required to 
immediately turn over the records that are being sought.

Nevertheless, ABFFE's advice to booksellers who receive a court order 
under FISA remains the same as it is to those who receive a subpoena. 
The first thing you should do is call your attorney. Then, either you 
or your attorney should
contact ABFFE so that we can put you in touch with lawyers who are 
familiar with the law surrounding the privacy of bookstore records.

Although the wording of the law seems to suggest that contacting 
anyone about the court order is forbidden, it is ABFFE's belief that 
you remain entitled to legal counsel. Therefore, you may call your 
attorney and/or ABFFE.
Because of the gag order, however, you should not tell ABFFE that you 
have received a court order under FISA.  You can simply tell us that 
you need to contact ABFFE's legal counsel.

Legal counsel is important even in cases where it is not possible to 
challenge a court order. It may be possible for you to have a lawyer 
present during a search of your store records. If so, the lawyer will 
be able to help you ensure that
there is no violation of the privacy of your other customers.

However, it is possible that the FBI will demand immediate access to 
your records. If the agents are unwilling to permit you to contact 
your attorney, you should cooperate with them. Otherwise, you may be 
arrested for disobeying
a court order. If you have no choice but to turn over records, the 
best thing you can do is help the FBI find the information that it is 
looking for and thus avoid exposing the records of other customers. 
If you have legal questions
after the search had been conducted, you can call your attorney or 
ABFFE will put you in touch with its lawyers.

At times of national crisis, civil liberties are very vulnerable. 
Although the new antiterrorism law contains a number of provisions 
that were deeply disturbing to civil libertarians, it passed the 
House by a vote of 356-to-66. In the Senate, Russell D. Feingold of 
Wisconsin was the only dissenting vote.

We believe the climate of opinion will eventually shift, allowing a 
reasoned debate of the dangers posed by these provisions. In the 
meantime, ABFFE will continue to work to remind public officials of 
the danger of sacrificing free
speech in the quest for security.

I want to take this opportunity to thank ABFFE members for their 
support and to urge anyone who isn't a member to consider joining 
now. Whether we can continue to act as the bookseller's voice in the 
vote against censorship depends on you.

Yours very truly,

X
President
-- 

_______________________________________________
discuss@madpeace.org mailing list
http://lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com/mailman/listinfo/madpeace-discuss

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Folks,

after browsing the action committee page I realized that I am to lead
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Suggestions needed!

What should we chant tomorrow?

let me know asap!

thanks,
X
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Shooting at Qatari air base
BBC World News Report

Officials in Qatar say that security forces have shot
dead a Qatari national after he opened fire on an air
base in the Gulf emirate.

The man, named as Abdullah Mubarak al-Hajri, opened
fire at 1030 (0730 GMT) on Wednesday on the Al-Adid
base 40 km (25 miles) south of the capital Doha, the
official Qatari news agency reported.

According to the US embassy in Doha, an unknown number
of Americans were injured in the attack, but in
Washington the Pentagon said it had no such
information.

The air base is being used by US military aircraft, in
line with a military cooperation agreement between the
two countries.

the BBC Middle East correspondent says the attack will
heighten fears of the Arab states rulers that their
populations are opposed to any support for the US-led
campaign against Afghanistan and the al-Qaeda network.


Security fears

The attack comes ahead of the opening of a World Trade
Organisation [WTO] conference in Doha on Friday.



Security is tight in the runup to the WTO meeting

WTO chief Mike Moore said the attack was not related
to the conference, and would not affect it.

Organisers of the conference have considered moving it
to a different venue following security fears in the
wake of the 11 September attacks, but Qatar fought to
keep it.

The United States trade representative, Robert
Zoellick, said he had decided to keep the size of his
delegation "as small as possible" for security
reasons.

Doha was originally chosen in an effort to stem the
likely mass of protesters, who were instrumental in
making the last WTO meeting in Seattle in 1999 an
ignominious failure.

Organisers expect 141 countries to attend the
conference, which runs from 9-13 November.


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According to Dagsavisen, a reputable newspaper in Norway, a Norwegian
student in biochemistry was expelled from the University of Alabama due to
beeing seen as a security threat. The logic - according to the newspaper -
goes like this: (a) He is a foreigner and (b) he had access to microbes. He
was expelled five days prior to his final exam, and following three and a
half years of studies. The University of Alabama refuses to give him any
documentation on his studies there.

X

________________

Norsk student sett på som terror-risiko
Norske Kristoffer Larsgard studerte biokjemi på universitetet i Alabama. Fem
dager før han var ferdig med teorien, ble han kastet ut - fordi den
amerikanske terrorfrykten tok helt overhånd. Nå vil han saksøke
universitetet.


 ÅSNE GULLIKSTAD (EPOST)

Kristoffer Larsgard har gått til søksmål mot universitetet som kastet ham
ut - fordi han angivelig var en terrortrussel.FOTO: DAGBLADET


Saken er allerede blitt en økonomisk belastning for nordmannen, som etter
nesten tre og et halvt års studier ble kastet ut av Universitetet i South
Alabama 21. september. Bare fem dager med teori gjensto av studiet før han
var klar for et siste halvår i praksis.

     I kjølvannet av terrorangrepene i USA hevdet skolens ledelse at han
utgjorde en fare fordi han var utenlandsk student og hadde tilgang på
farlige bakterier ved laboratoriet.



- TÅPELIG SAK
     Nå har Larsgard gått til søksmål mot universitetet, som han mener ikke
har tilstrekkelig grunnlag for å kaste ham ut. Universitetet saksøkes for å
ha brutt med amerikanske sivile rettigheter, blant annet ved å
vanskeliggjøre arbeidet til Larsgards advokat.

     - Under høringen foran disiplinærkomiteen ved universitetet fikk
advokaten min ikke lov til å snakke eller krysseksaminere vitner, eller si
imot bevis eller vitneutsagn som ble framsatt fra universitetets side,
forteller Kristoffer Larsgard til Dagsavisen på telefon fra USA.
     Etter økt oppmerksomhet rundt Larsgards sak, blant annet fra
amerikanske media, har skolen trukket anklagen om at Larsgard er en
terrorfare. I stedet hevder ledelsen at nordmannen har brutt ordensregler og
at han er en generell trussel mot medstudenter.


FEILPARKERING
     - Det er snakk om småting som de har slått sammen, blant annet en
feilparkering, sier Larsgard.
     Organisasjonen for norske studenter i utlandet, ANSA, har fulgt
Larsgards sak tett siden han ble kastet ut av universitetet. President André
Nerheim har fått tilgang til dokumentasjonen som ligger til grunn for
utkastingen.
     - Dette er en tåpelig sak med alvorlige konsekvenser for Larsgard.
Skolen hevder nå at han er et disiplinærproblem, men grunnlaget for å kaste
ham ut er absolutt ikke holdbart, sier Nerheim til Dagsavisen.
     ANSA har selv vært i kontakt med universitetet uten å komme noen vei.
     - Vi stiller oss undrende til det som har skjedd, og forstår ikke
hvorfor universitetet viser en slik holdning. Det virker veldig rart med
tanke på at Larsgard hvert semester har fått brev fra universitetets
direktør hvor det står at han er en av skolens beste studenter, og at
universitetet er stolt over å ha ham som student, sier Nerheim.


DYRT
     For Larsgard betyr utkastelsen store økonomiske problemer. Selv om han
eventuelt skulle få tilbake sin studieplass, har han mistet verdifull
undervisning og gått glipp av avsluttende eksamen, som han ble nektet.
     - I tillegg har universitetet sperret mine karakterer, så jeg ikke kan
søke på andre skoler. Et nytt skoleår vil dessuten koste meg enda mer, sier
Larsgard.
     En rettssak vil tynge den norske studenten ytterligere.
     - Jeg har allerede brukt 35.000 kroner av sparepengene mine til
advokatutgifter, sier studenten.
     ANSA har vært i kontakt med både Utenriksdepartementet,
Justisdepartementet og Utdanningsdepartementet for å be om hjelp til
Larsgards sak. Ifølge NTB mener Justisdepartementet at det er lite det kan
gjøre for å endre den beslutningen som universitetet i South Alabama har
truffet.


http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/2001/11/615599.shtml



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I strongly support X call to keep the MAPC Nov. 17 event
family-friendly and
nonconfrontational.  Publicity has already gone out seeking to set that
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MAPC is still in the process of establishing its identity in the
Madison community.  Our effectiveness could easily be hurt by a few
individuals who share our goals but feel compelled to chose their own
tactics while marching under our banner.

A member of our church passed out copies of MAPC's Peace Parade &amp;
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'Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001
Subject: Outreach Committee

I have a concern that I hope you will raise with the committee.  It seems
to me that while many groups who are potential coalition members would
agree with the 3 MAPC goals, they would want to know HOW the coalition
will pursue these goals before deciding to join.  Most church groups, for
example, would probably like to see an explicit commitment to openness
and nonviolence and a disavowal of the idea that the end justifies the
means.  I recommend that this committee develop a proposal, in broad
language, for adoption at the next general meeting.  This might involve,
for example, a sentence to be used immediately below the name of our
group, Madison Area Peace Coalition, in all the literature we develop,
such as:  "Committed to nonviolent action aimed at breaking the cycle of
hate and violence." '

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