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The Madison Area Peace Coalition (MAPC) formed fourteen days after the September 11 attacks to oppose (among other goals) the use of U.S. military, economic, or political force – whether direct or proxy, overt or covert -- "that violates the sovereignty or human rights of any nation or people." The Archive has assembled here e-mails exchanges from MAPC dating from the group's founding until late November 2001.
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Senate passed S1510--the USA Act--yesterday 96-1 vote. Wisconsin Senator
Russ Feingold was the only dissenting voice...
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[MAPC-policy] S 1510
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288 Xs
DIRECTIONS: PLEASE COPY this email onto a new message, sign the bottom
and forward it to everyone on your distribution list. If you receive this
list with more than 300 names on it, please email a copy of it to: >
X
Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill the
petition.
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petition
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I have put the minutes from Sunday on the cc wiki page. It would facilitate
approval next Sunday if everyone could read them and bring
corrections/changes with them.
exhausted but energized (if that makes sense),
X
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[MAPC-coord] minutes from Sunday
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Either way works for me on the first paragraph.
The other paragraph you quoted seems to have a redundancy:
"The Coordinating Committee is empowered to make emergency decisions for
MAPC." and "The Coordinating Committee has the right to make emergency
decisions when necessary."
X
----- Original Message -----
From: "X" <X>
To: <coordination@madpeace.org>
Cc: <X>; <X>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] cc mission for approval, gm agenda
> X,
>
> Thanks for doing this. I would change the first paragraph to the following
> for readability:
>
> The main decision-making body of MAPC is the General Meeting. (moved this
> next sentence forward from end of paragraph; seemed to flow better) The
> Coordinating Committee ensures that the decisions of the General Meetings
> are implemented. The General Meeting sets the politics and the overall
> direction of MAPC. The Coordinating Committee takes its direction from
the
> General Meeting, and is accountable to the (deleted general) membership.
All
> decisions made by the Coordinating Committee are subject to discussion and
> review by the General Meeting.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is empowered to make emergency decisions for
> MAPC. An emergency decision consists of responding appropriately to
rapidly
> changing current events, or of initiating the coordination of plans that
are
> under time constraint. The Coordinating Committee has the right to make
> emergency decisions when necessary. Emergency decisions will be reported
> back to the General Meeting
>
> I'll print, but would need to know tonight about content so that I can do
it
> between work tomorrow & the meeting. I'll be in a time crunch, especially
> with getting Jesse to a friend's house before the meeting.
>
> X
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: X
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:38 PM
> To: coordination@madpeace.org
> Cc: X; X
> Subject: [MAPC-coord] cc mission for approval, gm agenda
>
> Here is the CC mission, combining Rae's original plus what we
added/changed:
>
> - The main decision-making body of MAPC is the General Meeting. The
General
> Meeting sets the politics and the general direction of MAPC. The
> Coordinating Committee takes its direction from the General Meeting, and
is
> accountable to the general membership. All decisions made by the
> Coordinating Committee are subject to discussion and review by the General
> Meeting. The Coordinating Commitee ensures that the decisions of the
> General Meetings are implemented.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is the central orgainizing body of MAPC. It
> ensures that the work of the committees is coordinated. It evaluates
> ongoing work to make sure that MAPC is not missing opportunities for
> outreach, growth, and political impact.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is responsible for facilitating development
of
> overall strategy for the coalition, subject to General Meeting approval,
and
> for providing recommendations to ensure that the work of the committees is
> coordinated in a matter consistent with that strategy.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is empowered to make emergency decisions for
> MAPC. An emergency decision consists of responding appropriately to
rapidly
> changing current events, or of initiating the coordination of plans that
are
> under time constraint. The Coordinating Committee has the right to make
> emergency decisions when necessary. Emergency decisions will be reported
> back to the General Meeting.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is responsible for establishing policy on and
> making decisions regarding disbursement of funds by the coaltion.
>
> - The Coordinating Committee is responsible for orgainizing the General
> Meetings. It will develop agendas for General Meetings. It assures that
> General Meetings are organized so that critical discussions are held and
> important decisions are made in a timely fashion.
> =========================================
>
> THis was a little more difficult than it seemed, since not all sentences
> flowed well with what was sandwiched in. The first paragraph is funky
with
> using "general meeting" and "general membership" but I think it's probably
> ok. I did some minor editing to make everything fit together. We agreed to
> give 24 hours for corrections and feedback. X and X will present.
> X, will you be printing for distribution at the meeting?
>
> Here is the agenda:
>
> GM meeting agenda
>
> 1) Welcome
> 2) committee reports
> - action
> - outreach
> - Student Youth
> - Arts
> - media
> - policy
> - fundraising
> - labor movement report
> 3) Proposals (new business)
> - CC mission proposal
> - Action committee vigil proposal
> - SYC logo proposal
> 4) Announcements
> 5) Optional - Video
>
> I'll get the meeting notes out as soon as I can clean them up, probably
> tomorrow evening.
>
> X
>
>
>
>
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>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Policy Folks -
I'm leaving multiple messages for X, in various media. I am
asking for a brief sit-down meeting with us before 11/14 (deadline to file
resolution for debate on 11/20).
I will talk to X tonight, and perhaps try for the same thing
there, since the progressive caucus chose him Friday to be the contact for
this issue with me.
I will get back to you as soon as I have place and time.
--X
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[MAPC-policy] face-to-face meetings in works
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I will add it to the agenda.
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Sarah Coyle" <sarah@arccommserv.com>
>To: <coordination@madpeace.org>, <announce@madpeace.org>
>Date: 10/29/01 10:04:47 AM
>
Hi,
>
>I totally forgot that the policy committee wants something on
the
>"proposals" agenda: we have a proposal that the city alders
vote for a
>resolution that condems bombing (in different language than
that) in
>Afganistan. The resolution will be posted on "discuss" for
all to read &
>give feedback, to make changes before Tuesday. X
has been
>heading it up. Could we put it on the agenda for Tuesday?
Thanks.
>
>Sarah
>
>
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RE: [MAPC-coord] city policy resolution
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I remember is well. The time was Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 01:21:57PM -0600, and
X whispered:
>
> What do you think? It's later than we had hoped to have it introduced,
but
> it sounds like we'll have a better chance of passing the resolution then
> (given council dynamics), and we'll also have more time to mobilize the
> community in support of the resolution. It's true that this puts the
> resolution passing just after the timeline humanitarian groups have put on
> needing to start land convoys of aid, but I'm thinking that this is OK for
> two reasons: First, it's not like the U.S. federal gov't will immediately
> stop bombing because of a Madison city council resolution - this is one
> effort in a much bigger movement that will contribute to opening up
dialogue
> on the issue. Second - this is tragic and I hope it doesn't come across
as
> insensitive - if there are increased reports of Afghani civilians starving
> just before the council vote, it will make it really hard for alders not
to
> support the resolution (and we should submit copies of any articles like
> this to the alders just before the Dec 4 vote).
>
Actually, I'm getting pretty concerned that recent events in Afghanistan are
working against the strategy of our resolution. Humanitarian aid is going
(I
predict) to turn from the big weakness of the administration's position to a
propaganda coup.
I predict a *massive* effort will be undertaken (not least because Bush's
indifference to the humanitarian situation was starting to bother even
British
hawks). Now that the NA controls most of Afghanistan, this will be at least
mostly feasible.
Which is a great thing, because I was really starting to despair over the
lives
that seemed doomed to be lost. I can't come to the meeting tonight, but I
think
it is important to consider how to adapt our policy to counter the
possibility.
If we could have gotten this passed sooner, we could have indeed gained an
important rhetorical advantage, but I don't think Dec. 4 will do us much
good.
It's not that there still won't be a humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan.
But
Bush now has the opportunity to appear to be making "all possible effort" to
fix
the situation (which I actually hope he does). Since most of the dying will
be
happening in the Taliban-controlled south (assuming they stop running near
Khandahar), you can bet they'll be blamed for the starvation.
The Bush team may have dodged the bullet on this. If they don't, of course,
we
must howl bloody murder and put all our weight behind it--or we will be
talking
about genocide next spring. I'd really prefer not to. Let's hope they do
the
(only) moral thing, and think of other ways to make our points.
I'd suggest alternative lines of argument would include urging the
administration
not to consider expanding the scope of the war to include other countries,
such
as Iraq. We can also stress the need for immediate negotiations over a
peace
deal between Israel and the Palestinians. Other ideas?
Or am I off base? I'm just concerned that if this resolution, as written,
is
voted on Dec. 4, it may be in the middle of a *super* publicized
humanitarian
effort, and thus appear almost discredited. Maybe the administration will
blow this crucial moment and fail to support a massive aid push. I don't
think
even Bush is that stupid, however.
My .02$, for what they're worth.
X
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Re: [MAPC-policy] X willing to cosponsor!
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The Madison Area Peace Coalition (MAPC) formed fourteen days after the September 11 attacks to oppose (among other goals) the use of U.S. military, economic, or political force – whether direct or proxy, overt or covert -- "that violates the sovereignty or human rights of any nation or people." The Archive has assembled here e-mails exchanges from MAPC dating from the group's founding until late November 2001.
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Hi all!
Just a heads up that the MAPC logo will be on the agenda for Tuesday night's
general membership meeting, and a few comments (okay, I lied - lots of
comments) since I may not be able to attend the whole meeting.
While (AFAIK) we've never voted on this, the peace sign wrapped around the
globe has become the de facto MAPC logo. (IIRC the general membership
referred the logo question back to the Arts & Culture WG, and they couldn't
come up with anything better.)
The Student/Youth Caucus has objected to this logo, and designed a new one,
which will be presented on Tuesday. (As I understand it, the problem is
that the peace sign is tied to a particular historic era, and carries
baggage which is too hippie-ish -- as opposed to activist. There is also
concern that the grey-scale of the logo does not reduce or reproduce well.)
Their proposed logo has a half-globe, without peace sign, with paler images
of the globe radiating out from it. (Lousy description, I know.)
I sympathize with the S/YC's objections, but I like their proposed graphic
even less than the one we've been using. To me, it's not particularly
distinctive, and a globe alone just doesn't say "peace" to me. It could
just as easily be the logo graphic for a global telecommunications
corporation.
Then again, I'm not sure that any graphic we pick to represent
"peace/anti-war" will be acceptable to and truly representative of the whole
Coalition. The Vietnam-era peace sign is, well, Vietnam era, and doesn't
represent the new generation of activists. The dove has a longer history,
but strikes me as a bit too "Pacifist" in image, as does the rifle with a
flower in its barrel, broken rifle, broken bomb, and a few others. The
other predominant image from the Vietnam era, the clenched fist, of course,
has the opposite connotation. We've already been through the discussion of
incorporating the symbolism of the American flag; some of us think "peace is
patriotic" and others of us think U.S. nationalism is part of the problem.
And while the globe could well be something that none of us object to, it
really doesn't symbolize anything that distinguishes us from the other side.
"Madison area" is tough to symbolize graphically. The most identifiable
symbols are architectural (the State Capitol), and we have nothing to do
with state government. Doing something with the outline of the state and
highlighting the Madison area really doesn't work graphically. And I doubt
that anyone would recognize that a satellite view of the Four Lakes was
anything other than a Rorschach inkblot test.
We could try to have a symbol for everyone, incorporating lots of different
images in the logo, but the result would likely be an unwieldy mess.
My personal opinion at this point is that we should either (1)come up with a
graphic that is brand new -- no baggage from past movements or ideologies --
(and I have no earthly idea what this would be); or (2) just go with a
"words-only" logo, using a very distinctive typestyle and arrangement of the
words in our organization name. If the typestyle and arrangement are
distinctive enough, IMO the logo will be recognizeable and identifiable, and
would avoid the symbolism & baggage problems inherent in selecting any
graphic image for a diverse coalition.
X
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[MAPC-discuss] MAPC Logo Design -- Graphics, Symbolism, and
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Hello members and friends of U.S. Out Now.
The next U.S. Out Now meeting is:
Thursday, October 25th
6:00 PM
Kabul's restaurant
541 State St.
The purpose of this meeting is to:
- Get together and enjoy each other's company
- Celebrate our hard work with the "Life Under Siege" Tent encampment and
the Madison Area Peace Coalition.
- Meet X, from the Chicago-based, Voices in the Wilderness (VitW).
VitW is a leading peace organization in the U.S. that organizes to stop the
bombs and sanctions on Iraq.
X went to Iraq this past August with a VitW delegation. He will join us
for dinner on Thursday night, October 25th and speak at the MATC
International Peacekeeping and Peacemaking conference on Friday, October
26th, 3:00-4:30 PM. For more information about the conference, see
http://www.wisconsin-institute.org.
Hope to see you at Kabul's on the 25th!
X
X
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[al-awda-wi] U.S. Out Now Meeting, Thurs, 10/25, 6pm, Kabul's
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Sorry if this is a duplicate. I'm a little worried that X
might not reach you. Anyway, here is the resolution I drafted. Your
comments would be appreciated.
======================================================================
A RESOLUTION regarding the urgent need to provide emergency humanitarian
assistance and development assistance to civilians in Afghanistan, including
Afghan refugees in surrounding countries.
SPONSORS: [Alders names here.]
WHEREAS, a disastrous humanitarian crisis is underway, with an estimated 7.5
million people in Afghanistan facing critical food shortage or outright
starvation this winter; and
WHEREAS, food aid shipments have been disrupted due to security concerns
around U.S. military actions in Afghanistan; and
WHEREAS, Madison supports U.S. military efforts through many channels,
including the federal taxes its citizens pay, and through its citizens'
participation in the armed forces; and
WHEREAS, the Mayor and Common Council deplore their participation in actions
that cause mass starvation;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Mayor and Common Council urge a
resolution to the situation that minimizes loss of life; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT humanitarian concerns must be a top U.S.
priority for action in Afghanistan, especially as there exists a narrow
window of opportunity for supplying food to the region's population before
winter makes this difficult or impossible; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT Afghanistan's neighbors should reopen their
borders to allow for the safe passage of refugees, and the international
community must be prepared to contribute to the economic costs incurred by
the flight of desperate Afghan civilians; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT as the United States engages in military action
in Afghanistan, it must work to deliver assistance, particularly through
overland truck convoys, and safe humanitarian access to affected
populations, in partnership with humanitarian agencies in quantities
sufficient to alleviate a large scale humanitarian catastrophe; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the United States should contribute to efforts
by the international community to provide long-term, sustainable
reconstruction and development assistance for the people of Afghanistan,
including efforts to protect the basic human rights of women and children.
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Barbara Smith [X]
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copy of proposed city resolution
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Folks,
after browsing the action committee page I realized that I am to lead
the crowd in chants.
Suggestions needed!
What should we chant tomorrow?
let me know asap!
thanks,
X
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[MAPC-discuss] NEED CHANTS
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via http://www.kuro5hin.org/
http://insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=143236
[Rep. Ron] Paul [of TX] confirms rumors circulating in Washington that
this sweeping new law, with serious implications for each and every
American, was not made available to members of Congress for review before
the vote. "It's my understanding the bill wasn't printed before the vote
at least I couldn't get it. They played all kinds of games, kept the House
in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful
of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to
members before the vote."
----------------
also...
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/11/14/83952/307
The President of the United States, having "determined that an
extraordinary emergency exists" has signed an executive order which allows
for secret trials, by military tribunals, of captured terrorists. The
trials could be held in the US or abroad, and there is to be no judicial
review of the convictions or sentences. The order was signed by President
Bush in his capacity as the Commander in Chief.
specifically:
http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/nati
onal/14DTEX.html
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[MAPC-discuss] Who read PATRIOT?
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As X stated, the first paragraph was the toughest to write. I think the
following text flows the best, using X's edits and mine. Any feedback?
The main decision-making body of MAPC is the General Meeting. The General
Meeting sets the politics and the overall direction of MAPC. The
Coordinating Committee ensures that the decisions of the General Meeting are
implemented. The CC takes its direction from the General Meeting, and is
accountable to the membership. All decisions made by the CC are subject to
discussion and review by the General Meeting.
_______________________________________________
coordination@madpeace.org
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[MAPC-coord] First paragraph of CC mission statement
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----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Paynter
To: coordination@madpeace.org ; X
Cc: X
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter
If you would like to change your proposal to the publication of a joint newsletter next month, I would approve. But commiting to a regular monthly publication, welllll...
I'm a little shy about approving this proposal and the reasons are a combination of fiscal and political caution. If MAPC formally produces a newsletter, how will we assure a continuing commitment to appeal to a broad base of peace oriented people? If we commit to supporting $500 publication costs, then we're also talking about that plus an occasional $400 or $500 distribution costs to get those 10,000 8 pagers folded into the Isthmus and we're up to $1000 a month. Sounds like a good agenda item for the General Membership meeting. I would prefer occasional ad hoc efforts rather than a joint commitment to publish a regular periodical.
Incidentally, the anti war movement may be a minority, but it remains to be seen how small it is. I've talked and talked and can't find many people who are for the war.
X
ps
I think we could hit a higher energy level, save 95% of that money and diseminate more and better information by saving those trees and going straight to a blog format.
-----Original Message-----
From: madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com [mailto:madpeace-cc-admin@lists.OpenSoftwareServices.com]On Behalf Of X
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:36 PM
To: coordination@madpeace.org
Subject: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter
Educating the public needs to be our number one priority right now, given just how small a minority the anti-war movement is. MAPC should be disseminating information and analysis on the widest possible basis, and using that information to help bring people into the organization and establish our identify in the community. As X said at the student teach-in, we need to be thinking in terms of 10,000 copies of our literature, not a few hundred.
Following discussions with the South West Asia Information Group, I am proposing that MAPC & SWAIG publish a joint monthly newsletter.
The newsletter would be published as an 8-page newsprint tabloid. MAPC would be responsible for content of pages 7 and 8, plus about a quarter of page one. SWAIG would be responsible for the remaining content.
SWAIG's content would be similar to what was contained in its initial tabloid -- anslysis of the region, the war, and U.S. foreign policy. MAPC's content would be a calendar of events, information from the various Working Groups on their upcoming activities, reports on past activities, and other content designed to motivate readers to get involved. Solicitation of donations would also be included.
Approximately 10,000 copies of each issue would be published, requiring a major effort at distribution through literature tables, bundles left at stores, co-ops, etc., passing out at events or to pedestrians, and perhaps even door-to-door distribution in selected neighborhoods.
The printing cost for 10,000 copies of a 8-page tabloid would be approximately $500.00, using the non-union printer that SWAIG used for its tabloid. (I would prefer to transfer the project to a union shop, preferably Port Publications in Port Washington; this may require an adjustment in either the budget or number of copies.) This cost would be covered by MAPC.
I would expect that the newsletter would generate $100 to $200 per month in new donations, based on people clipping a donation request coupon. Another option would be to sell advertisements in the newsletter to supportive businesses, co-ops, and organizations. (SWAIG opposed this option, based on possible conflicts with the Madison Insurgent. I will be meeting with the Insurgent collective to discuss whether they would in fact have objections to this.)
If finances do not permit monthly publication, Plan B would be for alternating between the tabloid and a 2-page, 8.5 by 11, smaller circulation, newsletter containing only MAPC organizational info.
Because MAPC's contribution to the content would reflect the activities of all of the Working Groups, I believe that the newsletter should be coordinated at the CC level. (I ran this past O&E, who agreed.) Options for filling the newsletter editor position would include:
(a) One of the existing CC members could take on this project.
(b) A new at-large CC position could be created
(c) A Newsletter Working Group could be created; or
(d) A volunteer who is not officially on the CC. but is willing to attend CC meetings, could be located.
X
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Re: [MAPC-coord] PROPOSAL: MAPC/SWAIG Joint Newsletter
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This article from NYTimes.com
has been sent to you by x
hi there special ones,
i don't know if you all had a chance to read the sunday times-- so i'm
e-mailing this article-- please pass it on to people if you think they might
be interested.
xxoo
- x
This Is a Religious War
October 7, 2001
By ANDREW SULLIVAN
Perhaps the most admirable part of the response to the
conflict that began on Sept. 11 has been a general
reluctance to call it a religious war. Officials and
commentators have rightly stressed that this is not a
battle between the Muslim world and the West, that the
murderers are not representative of Islam. President Bush
went to the Islamic Center in Washington to reinforce the
point. At prayer meetings across the United States and
throughout the world, Muslim leaders have been included
alongside Christians, Jews and Buddhists.
The only problem with this otherwise laudable effort is
that it doesn't hold up under inspection. The religious
dimension of this conflict is central to its meaning. The
words of Osama bin Laden are saturated with religious
argument and theological language. Whatever else the
Taliban regime is in Afghanistan, it is fanatically
religious. Although some Muslim leaders have criticized the
terrorists, and even Saudi Arabia's rulers have distanced
themselves from the militants, other Muslims in the Middle
East and elsewhere have not denounced these acts, have been
conspicuously silent or have indeed celebrated them. The
terrorists' strain of Islam is clearly not shared by most
Muslims and is deeply unrepresentative of Islam's glorious,
civilized and peaceful past. But it surely represents a
part of Islam -- a radical, fundamentalist part -- that
simply cannot be ignored or denied.
In that sense, this surely is a religious war -- but not of
Islam versus Christianity and Judaism. Rather, it is a war
of fundamentalism against faiths of all kinds that are at
peace with freedom and modernity. This war even has far
gentler echoes in America's own religious conflicts --
between newer, more virulent strands of Christian
fundamentalism and mainstream Protestantism and
Catholicism. These conflicts have ancient roots, but they
seem to be gaining new force as modernity spreads and
deepens. They are our new wars of religion -- and their
victims are in all likelihood going to mount with each
passing year.
Osama bin Laden himself couldn't be clearer about the
religious underpinnings of his campaign of terror. In 1998,
he told his followers, ''The call to wage war against
America was made because America has spearheaded the
crusade against the Islamic nation, sending tens of
thousands of its troops to the land of the two holy mosques
over and above its meddling in its affairs and its politics
and its support of the oppressive, corrupt and tyrannical
regime that is in control.'' Notice the use of the word
''crusade,'' an explicitly religious term, and one that
simply ignores the fact that the last few major American
interventions abroad -- in Kuwait, Somalia and the Balkans
-- were all conducted in defense of Muslims.
Notice also that as bin Laden understands it, the
''crusade'' America is alleged to be leading is not against
Arabs but against the Islamic nation, which spans many
ethnicities. This nation knows no nation-states as they
actually exist in the region -- which is why this form of
Islamic fundamentalism is also so worrying to the rulers of
many Middle Eastern states. Notice also that bin Laden's
beef is with American troops defiling the land of Saudi
Arabia -- the land of the two holy mosques,'' in Mecca and
Medina. In 1998, he also told followers that his terrorism
was ''of the commendable kind, for it is directed at the
tyrants and the aggressors and the enemies of Allah.'' He
has a litany of grievances against Israel as well, but his
concerns are not primarily territorial or procedural. ''Our
religion is under attack,'' he said baldly. The attackers
are Christians and Jews. When asked to sum up his message
to the people of the West, bin Laden couldn't have been
clearer: ''Our call is the call of Islam that was revealed
to Muhammad. It is a call to all mankind. We have been
entrusted with good cause to follow in the footsteps of the
messenger and to communicate his message to all nations.''
This is a religious war against ''unbelief and
unbelievers,'' in bin Laden's words. Are these cynical
words designed merely to use Islam for nefarious ends? We
cannot know the precise motives of bin Laden, but we can
know that he would not use these words if he did not think
they had salience among the people he wishes to inspire and
provoke. This form of Islam is not restricted to bin Laden
alone.
Its roots lie in an extreme and violent strain in Islam
that emerged in the 18th century in opposition to what was
seen by some Muslims as Ottoman decadence but has gained
greater strength in the 20th. For the past two decades,
this form of Islamic fundamentalism has racked the Middle
East. It has targeted almost every regime in the region
and, as it failed to make progress, has extended its
hostility into the West. From the assassination of Anwar
Sadat to the fatwa against Salman Rushdie to the decadelong
campaign of bin Laden to the destruction of ancient
Buddhist statues and the hideous persecution of women and
homosexuals by the Taliban to the World Trade Center
massacre, there is a single line. That line is a
fundamentalist, religious one. And it is an Islamic one.
Most interpreters of the Koran find no arguments in it for
the murder of innocents. But it would be naive to ignore in
Islam a deep thread of intolerance toward unbelievers,
especially if those unbelievers are believed to be a threat
to the Islamic world. There are many passages in the Koran
urging mercy toward others, tolerance, respect for life and
so on. But there are also passages as violent as this:
''And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who
join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and
seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every
kind of ambush.'' And this: ''Believers! Wage war against
such of the infidels as are your neighbors, and let them
find you rigorous.'' Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of
Islam, writes of the dissonance within Islam: ''There is
something in the religious culture of Islam which inspired,
in even the humblest peasant or peddler, a dignity and a
courtesy toward others never exceeded and rarely equaled in
other civilizations. And yet, in moments of upheaval and
disruption, when the deeper passions are stirred, this
dignity and courtesy toward others can give way to an
explosive mixture of rage and hatred which impels even the
government of an ancient and civilized country -- even the
spokesman of a great spiritual and ethical religion -- to
espouse kidnapping and assassination, and try to find, in
the life of their prophet, approval and indeed precedent
for such actions.'' Since Muhammad was, unlike many other
religious leaders, not simply a sage or a prophet but a
ruler in his own right, this exploitation of his politics
is not as great a stretch as some would argue.
This use of religion for extreme repression, and even
terror, is not of course restricted to Islam. For most of
its history, Christianity has had a worse record. From the
Crusades to the Inquisition to the bloody religious wars of
the 16th and 17th centuries, Europe saw far more blood
spilled for religion's sake than the Muslim world did. And
given how expressly nonviolent the teachings of the Gospels
are, the perversion of Christianity in this respect was
arguably greater than bin Laden's selective use of Islam.
But it is there nonetheless. It seems almost as if there is
something inherent in religious monotheism that lends
itself to this kind of terrorist temptation. And our bland
attempts to ignore this -- to speak of this violence as if
it did not have religious roots -- is some kind of denial.
We don't want to denigrate religion as such, and so we deny
that religion is at the heart of this. But we would
understand this conflict better, perhaps, if we first
acknowledged that religion is responsible in some way, and
then figured out how and why.
The first mistake is surely to condescend to
fundamentalism. We may disagree with it, but it has
attracted millions of adherents for centuries, and for a
good reason. It elevates and comforts. It provides a sense
of meaning and direction to those lost in a disorienting
world. The blind recourse to texts embraced as literal
truth, the injunction to follow the commandments of God
before anything else, the subjugation of reason and
judgment and even conscience to the dictates of dogma:
these can be exhilarating and transformative. They have led
human beings to perform extraordinary acts of both good and
evil. And they have an internal logic to them. If you
believe that there is an eternal afterlife and that endless
indescribable torture awaits those who disobey God's law,
then it requires no huge stretch of imagination to make
sure that you not only conform to each diktat but that you
also encourage and, if necessary, coerce others to do the
same. The logic behind this is impeccable. Sin begets sin.
The sin of others can corrupt you as well. The only
solution is to construct a world in which such sin is
outlawed and punished and constantly purged -- by force if
necessary. It is not crazy to act this way if you believe
these things strongly enough. In some ways, it's crazier to
believe these things and not act this way.
In a world of absolute truth, in matters graver than life
and death, there is no room for dissent and no room for
theological doubt. Hence the reliance on literal
interpretations of texts -- because interpretation can lead
to error, and error can lead to damnation. Hence also the
ancient Catholic insistence on absolute church authority.
Without infallibility, there can be no guarantee of truth.
Without such a guarantee, confusion can lead to hell.
Dostoyevsky's Grand Inquisitor makes the case perhaps as
well as anyone. In the story told by Ivan Karamazov in
''The Brothers Karamazov,'' Jesus returns to earth during
the Spanish Inquisition. On a day when hundreds have been
burned at the stake for heresy, Jesus performs miracles.
Alarmed, the Inquisitor arrests Jesus and imprisons him
with the intent of burning him at the stake as well. What
follows is a conversation between the Inquisitor and Jesus.
Except it isn't a conversation because Jesus says nothing.
It is really a dialogue between two modes of religion, an
exploration of the tension between the extraordinary,
transcendent claims of religion and human beings' inability
to live up to them, or even fully believe them.
According to the Inquisitor, Jesus' crime was revealing
that salvation was possible but still allowing humans the
freedom to refuse it. And this, to the Inquisitor, was a
form of cruelty. When the truth involves the most important
things imaginable -- the meaning of life, the fate of one's
eternal soul, the difference between good and evil -- it is
not enough to premise it on the capacity of human choice.
That is too great a burden. Choice leads to unbelief or
distraction or negligence or despair. What human beings
really need is the certainty of truth, and they need to see
it reflected in everything around them -- in the cultures
in which they live, enveloping them in a seamless fabric of
faith that helps them resist the terror of choice and the
abyss of unbelief. This need is what the Inquisitor calls
the ''fundamental secret of human nature.'' He explains:
''These pitiful creatures are concerned not only to find
what one or the other can worship, but to find something
that all would believe in and worship; what is essential is
that all may be together in it. This craving for community
of worship is the chief misery of every man individually
and of all humanity since the beginning of time.''
This is the voice of fundamentalism. Faith cannot exist
alone in a single person. Indeed, faith needs others for it
to survive -- and the more complete the culture of faith,
the wider it is, and the more total its infiltration of the
world, the better. It is hard for us to wrap our minds
around this today, but it is quite clear from the accounts
of the Inquisition and, indeed, of the religious wars that
continued to rage in Europe for nearly three centuries,
that many of the fanatics who burned human beings at the
stake were acting out of what they genuinely thought were
the best interests of the victims. With the power of the
state, they used fire, as opposed to simple execution,
because it was thought to be spiritually cleansing. A few
minutes of hideous torture on earth were deemed a small
price to pay for helping such souls avoid eternal torture
in the afterlife. Moreover, the example of such
government-sponsored executions helped create a culture in
which certain truths were reinforced and in which it was
easier for more weak people to find faith. The burden of
this duty to uphold the faith lay on the men required to
torture, persecute and murder the unfaithful. And many of
them believed, as no doubt some Islamic fundamentalists
believe, that they were acting out of mercy and godliness.
This is the authentic voice of the Taliban. It also finds
itself replicated in secular form. What, after all, were
the totalitarian societies of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia
if not an exact replica of this kind of fusion of politics
and ultimate meaning? Under Lenin's and Stalin's rules, the
imminence of salvation through revolutionary consciousness
was in perpetual danger of being undermined by those too
weak to have faith -- the bourgeois or the kulaks or the
intellectuals. So they had to be liquidated or purged.
Similarly, it is easy for us to dismiss the Nazis as evil,
as they surely were. It is harder for us to understand that
in some twisted fashion, they truly believed that they were
creating a new dawn for humanity, a place where all the
doubts that freedom brings could be dispelled in a rapture
of racial purity and destiny. Hence the destruction of all
dissidents and the Jews -- carried out by fire as the
Inquisitors had before, an act of purification different
merely in its scale, efficiency and Godlessness.
Perhaps the most important thing for us to realize today is
that the defeat of each of these fundamentalisms required a
long and arduous effort. The conflict with Islamic
fundamentalism is likely to take as long. For unlike
Europe's religious wars, which taught Christians the
futility of fighting to the death over something beyond
human understanding and so immune to any definitive
resolution, there has been no such educative conflict in
the Muslim world. Only Iran and Afghanistan have
experienced the full horror of revolutionary
fundamentalism, and only Iran has so far seen reason to
moderate to some extent. From everything we see, the
lessons Europe learned in its bloody history have yet to be
absorbed within the Muslim world. There, as in 16th-century
Europe, the promise of purity and salvation seems far more
enticing than the mundane allure of mere peace. That means
that we are not at the end of this conflict but in its very
early stages.
America is not a neophyte in this struggle. the United
States has seen several waves of religious fervor since its
founding. But American evangelicalism has always kept its
distance from governmental power. The Christian separation
between what is God's and what is Caesar's -- drawn from
the Gospels -- helped restrain the fundamentalist
temptation. The last few decades have proved an exception,
however. As modernity advanced, and the certitudes of
fundamentalist faith seemed mocked by an increasingly
liberal society, evangelicals mobilized and entered
politics. Their faith sharpened, their zeal intensified,
the temptation to fuse political and religious authority
beckoned more insistently.
Mercifully, violence has not been a significant feature of
this trend -- but it has not been absent. The murders of
abortion providers show what such zeal can lead to. And
indeed, if people truly believe that abortion is the same
as mass murder, then you can see the awful logic of the
terrorism it has spawned. This is the same logic as bin
Laden's. If faith is that strong, and it dictates a choice
between action or eternal damnation, then violence can
easily be justified. In retrospect, we should be amazed not
that violence has occurred -- but that it hasn't occurred
more often.
The critical link between Western and Middle Eastern
fundamentalism is surely the pace of social change. If you
take your beliefs from books written more than a thousand
years ago, and you believe in these texts literally, then
the appearance of the modern world must truly terrify. If
you believe that women should be consigned to polygamous,
concealed servitude, then Manhattan must appear like
Gomorrah. If you believe that homosexuality is a crime
punishable by death, as both fundamentalist Islam and the
Bible dictate, then a world of same-sex marriage is surely
Sodom. It is not a big step to argue that such centers of
evil should be destroyed or undermined, as bin Laden does,
or to believe that their destruction is somehow a
consequence of their sin, as Jerry Falwell argued. Look
again at Falwell's now infamous words in the wake of Sept.
11: ''I really believe that the pagans, and the
abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and lesbians
who are actively trying to make that an alternative
lifestyle, the A.C.L.U., People for the American Way -- all
of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the
finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'''
And why wouldn't he believe that? He has subsequently
apologized for the insensitivity of the remark but not for
its theological underpinning. He cannot repudiate the
theology -- because it is the essence of what he believes
in and must believe in for his faith to remain alive.
The other critical aspect of this kind of faith is
insecurity. American fundamentalists know they are losing
the culture war. They are terrified of failure and of the
Godless world they believe is about to engulf or crush
them. They speak and think defensively. They talk about
renewal, but in their private discourse they expect
damnation for an America that has lost sight of the
fundamentalist notion of God.
Similarly, Muslims know that the era of Islam's imperial
triumph has long since gone. For many centuries, the
civilization of Islam was the center of the world. It
eclipsed Europe in the Dark Ages, fostered great learning
and expanded territorially well into Europe and Asia. But
it has all been downhill from there. From the collapse of
the Ottoman Empire onward, it has been on the losing side
of history. The response to this has been an intermittent
flirtation with Westernization but far more emphatically a
reaffirmation of the most irredentist and extreme forms of
the culture under threat. Hence the odd phenomenon of
Islamic extremism beginning in earnest only in the last 200
years.
With Islam, this has worse implications than for other
cultures that have had rises and falls. For Islam's
religious tolerance has always been premised on its own
power. It was tolerant when it controlled the territory and
called the shots. When it lost territory and saw itself
eclipsed by the West in power and civilization, tolerance
evaporated. To cite Lewis again on Islam: ''What is truly
evil and unacceptable is the domination of infidels over
true believers. For true believers to rule misbelievers is
proper and natural, since this provides for the maintenance
of the holy law and gives the misbelievers both the
opportunity and the incentive to embrace the true faith.
But for misbelievers to rule over true believers is
blasphemous and unnatural, since it leads to the corruption
of religion and morality in society and to the flouting or
even the abrogation of God's law.''
Thus the horror at the establishment of the State of
Israel, an infidel country in Muslim lands, a bitter
reminder of the eclipse of Islam in the modern world. Thus
also the revulsion at American bases in Saudi Arabia. While
colonialism of different degrees is merely political
oppression for some cultures, for Islam it was far worse.
It was blasphemy that had to be avenged and countered.
I cannot help thinking of this defensiveness when I read
stories of the suicide bombers sitting poolside in Florida
or racking up a $48 vodka tab in an American restaurant. We
tend to think that this assimilation into the West might
bring Islamic fundamentalists around somewhat, temper their
zeal. But in fact, the opposite is the case. The temptation
of American and Western culture -- indeed, the very allure
of such culture -- may well require a repression all the
more brutal if it is to be overcome. The transmission of
American culture into the heart of what bin Laden calls the
Islamic nation requires only two responses -- capitulation
to unbelief or a radical strike against it. There is little
room in the fundamentalist psyche for a moderate
accommodation. The very psychological dynamics that lead
repressed homosexuals to be viciously homophobic or that
entice sexually tempted preachers to inveigh against
immorality are the very dynamics that lead vodka-drinking
fundamentalists to steer planes into buildings. It is not
designed to achieve anything, construct anything, argue
anything. It is a violent acting out of internal conflict.
And America is the perfect arena for such acting out. For
the question of religious fundamentalism was not only
familiar to the founding fathers. In many ways, it was the
central question that led to America's existence. The first
American immigrants, after all, were refugees from the
religious wars that engulfed England and that intensified
under England's Taliban, Oliver Cromwell. One central
influence on the founders' political thought was John
Locke, the English liberal who wrote the now famous
''Letter on Toleration.'' In it, Locke argued that true
salvation could not be a result of coercion, that faith had
to be freely chosen to be genuine and that any other
interpretation was counter to the Gospels. Following Locke,
the founders established as a central element of the new
American order a stark separation of church and state,
ensuring that no single religion could use political means
to enforce its own orthodoxies.
We cite this as a platitude today without absorbing or even
realizing its radical nature in human history -- and the
deep human predicament it was designed to solve. It was an
attempt to answer the eternal human question of how to
pursue the goal of religious salvation for ourselves and
others and yet also maintain civil peace. What the founders
and Locke were saying was that the ultimate claims of
religion should simply not be allowed to interfere with
political and religious freedom. They did this to preserve
peace above all -- but also to preserve true religion
itself.
The security against an American Taliban is therefore
relatively simple: it's the Constitution. And the
surprising consequence of this separation is not that it
led to a collapse of religious faith in America -- as weak
human beings found themselves unable to believe without
social and political reinforcement -- but that it led to
one of the most vibrantly religious civil societies on
earth. No other country has achieved this. And it is this
achievement that the Taliban and bin Laden have now decided
to challenge. It is a living, tangible rebuke to everything
they believe in.
That is why this coming conflict is indeed as momentous and
as grave as the last major conflicts, against Nazism and
Communism, and why it is not hyperbole to see it in these
epic terms. What is at stake is yet another battle against
a religion that is succumbing to the temptation Jesus
refused in the desert -- to rule by force. The difference
is that this conflict is against a more formidable enemy
than Nazism or Communism. The secular totalitarianisms of
the 20th century were, in President Bush's memorable words,
''discarded lies.'' They were fundamentalisms built on the
very weak intellectual conceits of a master race and a
Communist revolution.
But Islamic fundamentalism is based on a glorious
civilization and a great faith. It can harness and co-opt
and corrupt true and good believers if it has a propitious
and toxic enough environment. It has a more powerful logic
than either Stalin's or Hitler's Godless ideology, and it
can serve as a focal point for all the other societies in
the world, whose resentment of Western success and
civilization comes more easily than the arduous task of
accommodation to modernity. We have to somehow defeat this
without defeating or even opposing a great religion that is
nonetheless extremely inexperienced in the toleration of
other ascendant and more powerful faiths. It is hard to
underestimate the extreme delicacy and difficulty of this
task.
In this sense, the symbol of this conflict should not be
Old Glory, however stirring it is. What is really at issue
here is the simple but immensely difficult principle of the
separation of politics and religion. We are fighting not
for our country as such or for our flag. We are fighting
for the universal principles of our Constitution -- and the
possibility of free religious faith it guarantees. We are
fighting for religion against one of the deepest strains in
religion there is. And not only our lives but our souls are
at stake.
Andrew Sullivan is a contributing writer for the
magazine.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/magazine/07RELIGION.html?ex=1003644909&ei=1&
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AFGHANISTAN: Annan Wants End To Strikes Soon; More
Citing the need to move in U.N. relief
supplies as winter
approaches, Secretary General Kofi Annan
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hopes the United States will halt its strikes
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hi X. and all,
Thanks for all your work on this! To clarify - who exactly have you been
talking to and do you have any sense for how representative their views are
(at least for the progressive caucus)? I realize that you'll know all that
better after Thurs night.
Ideally, I guess I'd like to see the "stronger" resolution introduced as a
communication and have the "weaker" one be introduced by one or (hopefully)
more progressive alders. If that's not going to happen - and it sounds
unlikely from what you've sent - I think we need to pressure the alders
we've been talking to to introduce the "weaker" one before T'ksgiving. I
have to say I'm really disappointed that they're hesitant to do anything
before T'ksgiving. After all, the reality we're addressing is an impending
massive humanitarian crisis. Jeeeeeeezus. THEY need a breather????
I don't know anything about resolutions introduced as a communication w/out
any alder sponsors, but it seems to me that doing that with our "weaker",
more likely to pass resolution will flag it as unacceptable to the council.
If I were a middle of the road alder and saw that none of the PD alders had
signed on, I sure as heck wouldn't vote for it. (But I think it'd be fine
to introduce the "stronger" one like that, if we do still decide to
introduce it.)
So, I guess - with the current info we have - I feel ambivalent about the
"stronger" resolution. If it will help the "weaker" one pass to introduce
it - by communication or by an alder - then I say we go for it. But the
people we need to talk to for this analysis are the PD alders who are
balking at the "weaker" one.
I strongly feel that we should have SOMETHING - preferably the "weaker" one
unchanged from where we left it (or at least not substantially changed)
voted on by Nov 20. I feel the broader MAPC would agree with this -
remember, at the last meeting the 1st vote was unanimous support for us
bringing SOMETHING to the council (with a sense of urgency regarding the
imminent starvation of millions), and the 2nd was in support of the
2-pronged strategy. If we have more info now that the 2-pronged strategy
won't work, the directive from the 1st vote still stands.
That's my rambling input for now.
-X
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The progressive caucus thought they would be ready to act on something
> AFTER Thanksgiving. Apparently changing "prayers" to "sympathies" was
very
> divisive last time, so they needed a breather.
>
> I still haven't gotten the in-depth feedback on this--Thursday night I
> should. X has been appointed to do this for me.
>
> X suggested we intro the whole text as a "communication" (no
> alder's name attached). That could be done BEFORE Thanksgiving.
>
> My first step though will be to call X, to make sure I am
> acting on her excellent strategy advice.
>
> I'd like the Policy Committee's input on something though. How far do we
> pursue the two-pronged approach? What I'm hearing from the progressive
> alders is that they don't want something too "divisive" (presumably to
their
> own caucus?), which means they want to back the weakest thing we've
> presented them with. If we are going to introduce one final text "as a
> communication" I definitely need the Policy Committee's OK on what that
> final text should be.
>
> OK, I'll get back to you when I know more.
>
> Sorry about all the e-mail.
>
> --X
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>please read and act. Because no representative from wisconsin is on these
>committees, we should consider contacting Senator Durbin of Illinois and
>Rep. Jackson of Illinois because they are a neighboring state. Here is our
>chance to influence the decision to give billions of apartheid aid to
>israel. Help block it and help shut down the apartheid state!
>--------------------------
>
>Subject: URGENT ACTION: Aid to Israel: House Conferees Chosen
>
>From: "X" <X>
>
>The House Conferees on the foreign aid bill (H.R. 2506) have now been
>chosen
>and are listed below. The schedule for the House-Senate Conference has not
>yet been released, but please make the calls recommended below ASAP.
>
>Peace,
> X
>
>******************************
>
>The bill giving $2.76 billion in foreign aid to Israel (17.7% of the entire
>foreign aid budget--approximately $460.00 for every Israeli citizen) has
>now gone to a conference committee to resolve differences between the House
>(H.R. 2506) and Senate (Recorded Vote 312) versions. You can find the
>details on
><http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR02506:@@@L&summ2=mstatus>.
>
>The bill is subject to modification in the conference committee, and we are
>asking the thousands who receive this email to contact the conferees and
>ask
>that the aid to Israel section be eliminated or suspended until Israel
>complies with international agreements on human rights and the Geneva
>Conventions (in particular: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or
>transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it
>occupies." -Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949). When
>calling the office, ask to speak with the staffer in charge of foreign
>relations. Please call as many of these members as you can, but AT LEAST
>call any who respresent you, as well as FOUR members of EACH house from
>neighboring areas.
>
>Senate Conferees:
>
>Bennett (UT: 202-224-5444 / 801-524-5933)
>Bond (MO: 202-224-5721 / 314-725-4484)
>Byrd (WV: 202-224-3954 / 304-342-5855)
>Campbell (CO: 202-224-5852 / 719-636-9092)
>Durbin (IL: 202-224-2152 / 312-353-4952)
>Gregg (NH: 202-224-3324 / 603-225-7115)
>Harkin (IA: 202-224-3254 / 515-284-4574)
>Inouye (HI: 202-224-3934 / 808-541-2542)
>Johnson (SD: 202-224-5842 / 605-332-8896)
>Landrieu (LA: 202-224-5824 / 504-589-2427)
>Leahy (VT: 202-224-4242 / 802-863-2525)
>McConnell (KY: 202-224-2541 / 502-582-6304)
>Mikulski (MD: 202-224-4654 / 410-962-4510)
>Reed (RI: 202-224-4642 / 401-943-3100)
>Shelby (AL: 202-224-5744 / 334-223-7303)
>Specter (PA: 202-224-4254 / 215-597-7200)
>Stevens (AK:202-224-3004 / 907-586-7400)
>
>House Conferees:
>
>Bonilla (TX: 202-225-4511 / 210-697-9055)
>Callahan (AL: 202-225-4931 / 334-690-2811)
>Jackson (IL: 202-225-0773 / 708-798-6000)
>Kilpatrick (MI: 202-225-2261 / 313-965-9004)
>Kingston (GA: 202-225-5831 / 912-352-0101)
>Knollenberg (MI:: 202-225-5802 / 248-851-1366)
>Kolbe (AZ: 202-225-2542 / 520-881-3588)
>Lewis (CA: 202-225-5861 / 909-862-6030)
>Lowey (NY: 202-225-6506 / 914-428-1707)
>Obey (WI: 202-225-3365 / 715-842-5606)
>Pelosi (CA: 202-225-4965 / 415-556-4862)
>Rothman (NJ: 202-225-5061 / 201-646-0808)
>Sununu (NH: 202-225-5456 / 603-641-9536)
>Wicker (MS: 202-225-4306 / 662-844-5437)
>Young (FL: 202-225-5961 / 813-893-3191)
>
>
> Also, please contact the White House (202-456-1111) and ask the
>President to be prepared to veto this bill.
>
>TALKING POINTS
>
> 1. The major talking point that is likely to resonate with House
>and Senate members is that aid to Israel at this time will have a seriously
>negative impact on the President's anti-terrorism efforts and will put
>American citizens at risk.
>
>2. If you think the Representative/Senator might be receptive, you might
>also talk about the brutality of the current Israeli attack against
>Palestinians, and the occupation in general. Be careful with this one
>however, since, unfortunately most members have a knee-jerk positive
>response in favor of funding for Israel. Better to concentrate on the
>dangers to Americans (which is an argument that I find personally
>offensive,
>due to its clear implication that American lives are more valuable than any
>others). However, it IS the American citizen that votes for these folks.
>
>Some hints about contacting the President, House and Senate:
>
>******CONTACT EARLY AND OFTEN******BE POLITE******CONTACT EARLY AND
>OFTEN******BE POLITE******
>
>1. When contacting members of Congress, they tend to take more seriously
>the calls and letters that specifically mention the legislation (i.e., H.R.
>2506 for the House--Senate Recorded Vote 312). You can find contact
>information for additional Senators and Congresspeople at
>http://government.aol.com.
>
>2. On another note, as long as it is not one of a mass email or mailing,
>they don't tend to look at the source of the information much differently
>(i.e.--phone/email/mail/fax), unless you meet in person, which is of course
>much more effective.
>
>3. At present (Fall 2001), I highly recommend emailing over mailing. Also,
>it is currently more useful to fax than mail info because mail is backed up
>for weeks due to the anthrax scare.
>
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>X
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>
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[MAPC-policy] IMMED ACTION: BLOCK U.S. AID TO ISRAEL
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something a friend sent to me and something i need to send onto all of you. please read on;
http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html
rosanna
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Yup. That's what I intended. And here's a copy for "discuss" too.
-----Original Message-----
From: x
[mailto:x]On Behalf Of
x
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:35 AM
To: x
Cc: x
Subject: Fw: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
I'm assuming that x intended this reply to go to the lists, not just to
me, so I'm forwarding it along. (If I'm wrong, I apologize, but with time
being of the essence, I decided to take the chance.)
x
----- Original Message -----
From: "x" <x>
To: "x" <x>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
> Yes I have an opinion... I think our reactionary plans to respond to
> egregious actions on the part of the US are totally off the mark. Barring
> deployment of tactical nukes to the field, employment of weapons of mass
> destruction, or overt invasion with intent to occupy a country, nothing
the
> US does right now will upset enough of the people to help us gather a big
> rally. A big rally in my experience in Madison is over 1000 people. A
> medium size rally is between three or four hundred and a thousand. How
many
> of us think we can even organize a medium size rally in response to an ill
> defined set of "emergencies" that we intend to react against? We need to
> look deeper for a strategy and tactics that won't have our best people
> burning out from so much work to so little result. We need to define a
> program of constant social pressure. We need to keep the issues squarely
in
> front of the people 7 by 24. And I think we need to do this without
> alienating and polarizing people.
>
> I think the art event planned for next week is wonderful because it is
> independent of CNN ("all anthrax all the time" as x says). How much
> tabling do we have the resources to support, week in and week out at both
> unions? How many other "vigils" like the Quaker sponsored ones on Monday
> and Friday can we organize and support? A few people here and there all
the
> time is far more effective than poorly attended rallies held in response
to
> ill defined emergencies.
>
> I'm not saying all of our rally activities to date have been ineffective
or
> poorly attended... far from it! But organizers who can help to channel a
> spontaneous response from the people with a rally will be far more
effective
> than organizers who attempt to drum up a response.
>
> I think we need to refine our approaches: hold rallies that are well
> planned and/or responsive to a clear need; work with education and
outreach
> to see that tables are planned and manned, ummm... personed; organize in
the
> community around people who may want to respond to the war with peaceful
> activity, but could give a rats ass regarding abstruse economic issues
like
> G8 summits. Want to educate these people? Give them time and good
> examples.
>
> Comments? Thoughts?
>
> -x-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: x
> [mailtox]On Behalf Of
> x
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:35 PM
> To: x
> Cc: x
> Subject: Re: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
>
>
> Aaaargh.
>
> Part of me says "If we have to ask whether we should hold an emergency
> rally, we shouldn't hold it."
>
> The other part of me feels like a frog in a pot of water on the stove. If
> the heat is turned up gradually enough, the frog never knows when to jump,
> until it's too late.
>
> I realize that's not very helpful. Anyone else have an opinion?
>
> x
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "x" <x>
> To: <x>
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:34 PM
> Subject: [MAPC-coord] action, no action?
>
>
> > all (this is really a response to x's friday morning
> > call to potential action/questions and marina's friday
> > night hey it looks like we should at least do a picket
> > line sat afternoon emails):
> >
> > if we are going to do this tomorrow, as x is
> > suggesting, i am out, as i have to work, but pls keep
> > me posted, as i will then start the arts chain going.
> > do we want same signs or more? x has sticks and i
> > have cardboard, etc.
> >
> > i wonder if, and this is just a wonder, having even a
> > picket when the action is not being well-publicized is
> > a good idea. i know that there is much going on in
> > this war, like all other us "actions" which is
> > underwritten dramatically, and we need to call
> > attention to it, however, folks are more likely to
> > understand what we are calling for and call with us if
> > it is of a dramatic nature. subjective nature, i
> > suppose. as we all agreed at the last meeting, from
> > here on out it is much more subjective than just the
> > bombing beginning.
> >
> > regardless, i will pass the word if i hear back from
> > more folks.
> >
> > thanks,
> > x
> >
> > --- x <x> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm back from work and the media coverage is
> > > different than this
> > > morning. This morning, TV had reported it as
> > > "deploying ground troops."
> > > Now the media is characterizing it as "a handful of
> > > U.S. special forces."
> > > Given that description, it looks like we do not need
> > > to employ our
> > > emergency response today. What a relief! However, I
> > > think we need to
> > > be READY if troops are sent in. Given the quick
> > > nature in which this
> > > may happen, I opt for planning our strategy now so
> > > we don't have to
> > > scramble later. I think a picket line would be the
> > > most expedient course,
> > > especially given the fact that we've already had
> > > numerous
> > > rallies. Also, a picket line is a lot less work to
> > > organize than a rally.
> > > Rallies involve amplification, multiple speakers,
> > > musicians, etc. We would
> > > need the following to be ready if we decide on a
> > > picket line: press release,
> > > press contacts, bullhorn or portable sound system
> > > (or both), picket signs,
> > > chant sheets, and MAPC literature. These tasks cross
> > > over multiple
> > > committees so I think we ought to decide now what we
> > > want to do and
> > > start preparing within the committees--then we won't
> > > be in a crisis
> > > mode later.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > x
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "x" <x>
> > > To: <x>;
> > > <x>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:31 AM
> > > Subject: [MAPC-coord] Re: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action
> > > Protesting Ground Troops
> > >
> > >
> > > > CNN is reporting a small deployment of Special
> > > Forces ground troops,
> > > > probably intended to locate targets for air
> > > strikes rather than to engage
> > > in
> > > > combat. Fox News is reporting three teams of a
> > > dozen troops each. One of
> > > > them reported that there had been numerous prior
> > > sightings of U.S. troops,
> > > > but that this was the first official confirmation.
> > > It's not the top story
> > > > either place.
> > > >
> > > > My recollection from the CC discussions was that
> > > an emergency response
> > > would
> > > > be automatic in the event of a non-Special Forces
> > > ground invasion or a
> > > > *major* deployment of Special Forces, but that a
> > > small Special Forces
> > > > deployment would not necessarily trigger an
> > > emergency action.
> > > >
> > > > I would also note that, in the two hours since Rae
> > > posted this, there has
> > > > been no other discussion of an action on any of
> > > the MAPC lists. So I
> > > don't
> > > > get the impression that other folks in MAPC have
> > > interpreted this as
> > > > requiring immediate action.
> > > >
> > > > My own feeling -- perhaps influenced by the fact
> > > that I'm sick and can't
> > > > help out regardless -- is that this is not a
> > > significant military
> > > escalation
> > > > and is probably just a public acknowledgment of
> > > what has been happening on
> > > > the ground all along.
> > > >
> > > > x
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "x" <x>
> > > > To: <x>;
> > > <x>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [MAPC-action] 5pm Action Protesting
> > > Ground Troops
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The media is saying that the US has sent ground
> > > troops into Afghanistan.
> > > > We
> > > > > had planned on a 5pm action on the capitol in
> > > response to this. I think
> > > we
> > > > > should go ahead, but given all the other things
> > > we are doing, we should
> > > > keep
> > > > > it simple.
> > > > >
> > > > > I propose we just have a picket line. The
> > > following things need to be
> > > > done:
> > > > >
> > > > > Get an announcement out to WORT to build the
> > > action.
> > > > > Get a bullhorn.
> > > > > Put together a sheet of chants.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately, I am walking out the door to go
> > > to work, so I can't help
> > > on
> > > > > this. Given the fact its a work day, I suspect
> > > alot of other people are
> > > in
> > > > > the same boat. Can someone step up and run with
> > > this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > x
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