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Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:13 PM
Zwick

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public
comments regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing
and administering the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund." 
I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure
compensation is available to all victims of the attack,
including the committed partners and the non-biological children
of gay and lesbian victims.

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic
losses suffered by the families of gay and lesbian victims are
no less than that of other families.  Just as the terrorists
drew no lines in choosing their victims, our country must draw
no lines in compensating those who suffered the most personal of
losses from these horrific attacks.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom
left behind loved ones.  I urge the Department to honor these
bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian victims as you
would any other.  Who is to judge 


Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Rutland, VT 

 
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Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Progra
U.S. Department of Justice.


Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am asking you, as Director of the Justice Department, to include among relatives eligible for compensation those who lost their life partners as well as de facto parents or children, without regard to SEXUAL ORIENTATION or MARITAL status.

Please follow the example already set by New York Governor Pataki in granting compensation benefits "on a showing of mutual interdependence with the victim, in recognition that anyone who shared with the victim living expenses, day-to-day activities and the emotional bonds of family, deserves help in this time of need."

Thank you very much for your consideration, and best wishes for the holiday season.

Sincerely, 

Individual Comment
Quakertown, PA    

 
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December 14, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
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950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.  Under
traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
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all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money
went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
     
Individual Comment
Tallahassee, FL 
 
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              <text>Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:33 PM
Interin Final Rule

Just some comments ...

Life Insurance:  Yes, it should be deducted as a "other source compensation".  However, it probably wouldn't hurt to reduce the life insurance compensation by any premiums directly paid by the deceased.

Overriding wishes of the deceased:  As far as the Special Master not agreeing with how the personal representative intends to distribute the compensation, I don't think you should get involved.  As long as the PR is acting according to the will, if any, and the laws of the state in question, the Special Master should not be make this type of value judgment against the express wishes of the deceased.  The 'true' victim is the deceased.  The 'survivors-of-a-victim' are only secondary.  Any overriding of the wishes of the deceased should only be done in a case of unquestionable NEED (poverty-level type 'need', not Wall Street hot shot type 'want'), not just GREED.  State laws (at least my state) have built in provisions for elective-share for a spouse who is really getting screwed, so let that be invoked.  You should follow the determination of the state if at all possible.  There may be very good underlying reasons for provisions of the will which the PR nor you have any notion of.

Economic Compensation:  I really don't understand why these 'survivors-of-victims' will receive, in effect, a life time of handouts when our federal law has explicitly stated that welfare has a 5-year lifetime eligibility limit.  Why isn't there a 5-year limit on this 'welfare' program too?

401ks/IRAs/etc:  The 'other source compensation' value of these sources needs to be evaluated intelligently, taking into account economic conditions and the eventual recipient of such benefits.  For example, a spouse may be entitled to wait up to 5 years before having to take over a 401k, but if it goes to a non-spouse there may be a 60-90 day time frame.  This can GREATLY impact the ultimate value of what is received.  Make sure a Sept. 21, 2001 document is presented as the supposed 'current' value!  Also, given the variations in when investments may have to be 'cashed in', you should probably consider the types of investments, their current value, their expected future value (relative to 'cash in' time frames).  It is a tricky situation, but even I am able to figure out how best to play this one - get the government to reimburse any losses realized over the last couple years while protecting my ability to make up that loss again by holding off for a while.  This fund shouldn't be providing 'free capital' for 'speculators'.

Question for the Future:  Insurance companies 'rose to the occasion' this time around and agreed not to invoke war/terrorism clauses as far as making good on individual coverage for property and medical.  However, as they have stated, there is no guarantee that they will do it next time.  Given that the initial victim estimates were grossly overstated (at least double of reality), as opposed to 'upping' the amount available to the smaller number of claimants (as potential recipients have suggested you do), I suggest you set aside the 'unneeded' funds for future use in 'making good' on individual insurance claims related to future terrorist actions that may be denied next time around.

Individual Comment
Denver, CO

 
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December 16, 2001

Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, 
including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars
per
year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in one of
the
restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent worth of all
those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It would be a
double
blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the taxpayer money went to
those
who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of
marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of having to
prove
that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New York have already 
announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The Department of Justice
should
do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important 
issues.

Sincerely,

Individual Comment
Albany,CA

 
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February 22, 2002

To:  Victim's Compensation Twin Towers [Via FAX #301-519-5956]

You have asked for comments regarding victim's compensation as a result of the 9/11 
tragedy.

I can see no governmental justification for any other than token compensation for Twin
Tower victims.  I think it is admirable for employers to assume whatever obligation they 
feel toward their employees, but I see minimal obligation on the part of the government.  
I applaud the thousands of individual contributors to the victim's trust fund and feel the 
victims are entitled to every penny of this distributed equally to each victim.  In my
opinion, a dangerous precedent will be set if this legislation remains as is.  I say "will be
set" because I hope Congress will re-consider this legislation.  Among the alternatives
would be a cap of some figure, such as $100,000.

And worse still, it is insulting to subtract the life insurance that these prescient individuals
attempted to use to guard against untimely death.

What about other victims of tragedies past and tragedies yet to come?  Are we going to 
do this every time a terrorist act occurs?  We haven't in the past, at least not to this extent.
We'll bankrupt ourselves.

Thanks for the opportunity to express my opinion.

Sincerely,
Individual Comment
Wilson, NC




Mail copies to: Senators Edwards and Helms and to Representative Etheridge

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Sunday, March 03, 2002 1:08 PM
New Vote.com votes as of 01:07 PM EST on March 03rd, 2002


Dear September 11th Victim Compensation Fund,

Vote.com is the Internet's most popular voting site.  Millions of people regularly express their opinions and - in just one click - automatically send their views to important decision makers like you.

Here are the latest votes on the question, DOES THE GOVERNMENT'S AID PROGRAM FOR FAMILIES OF SEPT. 11 VICTIMS GO FAR ENOUGH?:

YES: 12 votes 
NO: 1 votes 



Group Comment

 
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Monday, March 11, 2002 10:51 AM
Are you kidding?


To Whom it May Concern

I have just read with horror the fact that one of the heroes of the 911 
tragedy is being grossly discriminated against.
I do not understand.  When I donated money to that fund I understood it would 
help ALL persons who were affected by the terrorist attacks of that date.
Now I am being told that           
, a person recognized as a hero from 
September 11, 2001 and forward, is now being denied rights and benefits to 
his family because he was GAY??????????
Oh yes, let's give the money to the illegal aliens.  They break US laws and 
laws of the states but they get money from the fund.  
But an American citizen who very possibly saved the lives of our lawmakers is 
DENIED benefits to his family because he was gay.   
Something is horribly warped here.  Something is very wrong.
          
was a hero.  I would like nothing more than for my grandchildren 
to grow up to be JUST LIKE HIM!  Gay or not, who cares????  
When people donated to the 9/11 Fund we were told it would assist ALL 
families of ALL victims.  Now you are telling us that it is not true.  You 
have LIED to the American people and taken money under false pretenses.  I 
believe you have committed a crime.
      
did not commit a crime - he saved lives.

My son is serving in the National Guard at the moment, he and his young 
family are having a difficult time making ends meet as a result of this 
terrorist attack.  But he is my personal hero.  A young man who looks at 
those who died, and those who tried to save lives and he knows he can do 
nothing but serve.  I hope his infant son grows up to be just like him and 
just like       
and       
and       
and the other heroes 
whose names escape me at the moment.  
I hope he does not grow up to be bigoted, homophobic and unAmerican as the 
persons who operate this fund.

Please return my donation.

Individual Comment
Plymouth, MN   
 
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December 13, 2001


Special Master Kenneth R. Feinberg
September 11th Victim Compensation Fund
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20530

To Mr. Feinberg:

I am writing to urge you to ensure fair treatment for all surviving families of the tragedy on September
11th, including the children and families of low-wage workers and gay and lesbian families.

Under traditional rules based on lost wages, the survivors of a bond trader earning millions of dollars
per year might receive thousands of times as much compensation as the survivors of a dishwasher in
one of the restaurants destroyed. Justice requires looking far beyond the last paycheck to the inherent
worth of all those killed, so that a high minimum compensation level is set to lessen the disparities. It
would be a double blow to the survivors to first lose their loved one and then watch as most of the
taxpayer money went to those who were already well off in the first place.

The second major issue has to do with recognizing the legitimacy of gay and lesbian relationships and 
families. Gay and lesbian families are especially vulnerable when one partner is killed. Because the
option of marriage is unavailable, these families may find themselves in the traumatic predicament of
having to prove that their union is legitimate. Fortunately, both the Red Cross and the State of New
York have already announced that they will not discriminate against gay and lesbian families. The
Department of Justice should do the same.

Thank you for considering my comments. I look forward to hearing how you will act on these very
important issues.

Sincerely,
     
Individual Comment
Highland,NY
 
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Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:28 PM
Shame on Feinberg and the Bush Administration

To Whom It May Concern:

I am horrified and appalled at the treatment of the families of gay and
lesbian victims of the 9-11 attacks. For the administration to single out
gays and lesbians for this contemptuous treatment, especially while allowing
undocumented workers to claim benefits, is more than a slap in the face, it
is a wholesale dismissal of the humanity of these people, many of whom
emerged as heroes that horrible day. All Americans should be equal in the
way their government treats them, however this government believes the
rights of non-Americans are more pressing than the rights of its own
citizens.  This is obscene.

Shame on Mr. Feinberg! Shame on Mr. Bush! Shame on the rabidly homophobic
members of his administration who, behind the scenes, came up with this
heinous idea. You are playing politics with the lives of people who have had
such horror thrown at them. You disgust me.

May your imminent fall from power (you have already fallen from grace) be as
swift and spectacular as it is devastating. Rest assured that I will do
everything legally possibly to hasten this.

Individual Comment

 
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Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:09 AM


i do not think wha tyou are doing is correct at all.  are you trying to say 
that people that are gay are less than someone that is an illegal person that 
is in this country.  the people that are working here without a work visa is 
more important than one of its people.  let us remind you all that one of the 
people that saved a lot of people was a gay man that sacrifiested his life to 
stop the terrorist from killing god nows how many others.  we all know that 
the funds should be splitt equally between all of the people taht were 
killed, not judged from their lives.  we are all people not just a group or  
a number to be judged by but all of us are in the human race.  i think it is 
time that we all start acting like it.


Individual Comment

 
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Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:23 PM
Gay/Lesbian victims

Kenneth L. Zwick, Director
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division
U.S. Department of Justice


    Dear Sirs

    Please make sure that the families of Gay and Lesbian victims are included in the benefits of the relief package because of the 9/11 terrorist attack.

Individual Comment
Austin,  TX

 
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:59 AM



I am just one of MANY Americans out here who 
thinks that the exclusion of gay and lesbian 
partners from 911 Fund benefits is the most 
shameful thing I've heard since the attack. It's time 
that this kind of discrimination and right-wing 
moral superiority bull-shit be dealt with head-on. 
You are compensating ILLEGAL aliens and NOT 
patroiotic men and women (many of whom DIED 
to protect the rest of us). You should all be 
ashamed. All of you.

Individual Comment 


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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:37 PM
Setember 11 victim compensation fund

December 10. 2001

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public comments regarding
the forthcoming regulations for implementing and administering the "September
11 Victim Compensation Fund." 

I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure compensation
is available to all victims of the attack, including the committed partners
and the non-biological children
of gay and lesbian victims.

The devastating grief and economic losses suffered by the families of gay and
lesbian victims are no less than that of other families.  Our country must draw
no lines in compensating those who suffered the most personal of losses from
these horrific attacks. This fair and equal treatment for all of our citizens
will create unity at a time when we need to unite.

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom left behind loved
ones.  I urge the Department to honor these bonds by treating the families of
gay and lesbian victims as you would any other.

To withhold benefits from families of ANY person is a disservice to ALL families
who lost loved ones that day." I urge you to consider the implications of excluding
people from their rights when our freedoms and rights are under attack from
those outside of these United States.

Sincerely,


Individual Comment
Eureka, CA

 
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Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:38 PM
September 11 Victim Compensation Fund

Dear Mr. Zwick:

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public
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I strongly urge the Department to draft regulations that ensure
compensation is available to all victims of the attack,
including the committed partners and the non-biological children
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It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic
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drew no lines in choosing their victims, our country must draw
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Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom
left behind loved ones.  I urge the Department to honor these
bonds by treating the families of gay and lesbian victims as you
would any other.

Sincerely yours,

Individual Comment
Hancock, ME
 
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Saturday, January 19, 2002 3:59 PM
Individual Comment

Dear Mr. Kenneth Zwick,

NON-ECONOMIC LOSS

Arguments are being raised that the non-economic loss compensation being
offered is substantially less (some suggest by a factor of 10 to 1) than
comparative awards in recent US history. This needs to be addressed urgently
particularly as claimants are required to abandon their rights to certain
further US action ahead of compensation determinations.

There is a large disparity between the compensation in respect of married
and unmarried victims. The difference is excessive and I would suggest
should be no more than 25%.
Further I would suggest that extenuating factors related to the individual
circumstances of the deceased should further close the gap. For example
where it can be shown that an unmarried partner has been seriously
prejudiced and suffers by way of the loss, they should be treated proximate
a married partner. There have been hundreds of (largely repetitive) appeals
for the fair treatment of same sex partners and far far fewer appeals for
heterosexual unmarried partners who need fair consideration particularly
bearing in mind our changing social norms.

The heroism of the NY firemen and police killed needs to be recognized
through this fund category.
The suffering of the victims, and their kin now and in the years to come,
killed on the upper 15 floors of WTC 1, where there were no survivors,
warrants special consideration.
For both categories I would suggest an increase in non-economic loss of some
50% over the average granted.


ECONOMIC LOSS


I suggest the basis for projecting future earnings, namely 1998-2000 taxed
earnings together with a growth projection of approximately 5% per year is
unrealistic and inequitable to the youth killed ( i.e. under 30 years old)
as well as to those advancing at greater than 5% per year in the past few
years.  Earnings in 2001 should be taken as the starting base.

I join the chorus in suggesting that the offset of life insurance sends out
a poor signal.

I suggest that there can be few sound arguments to justify significant
differences between single and married victims in respect of the present
value of their projected earnings. This is nothing short of discrimination
against the families of single victims.

There are also I suggest no grounds for differentiating the present value of
substantially the same earnings stream in the cases where there are
dependants. If this concept remains can I suggest that as a minimum the
category of dependant be at least widened to include parents and siblings
depending on the individual circumstances of each deceased.

Respondent N001548 suggests that the future earnings discount rate used of
5.13% over the risk less rate is excessive and materially affects the amount
of compensation in current terms. This clearly warrants clarification.

Individual Comment
Johannesburg, South Africa


 
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Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:20 PM
9-11

I just read a post that states that gay and lesbian survivors of the 9-11 
tragedy will not be included in the benefits packages available to other 
surviving loved ones.  How is this possible?  I urge you to reconsider.  If 
this information is correct, it is wrong in every sense of the word.  

Individual Comment
Los Angeles, CA
 
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Friday, March 15, 2002 11:24 AM




Ama I to understand that the family of an American hero,             , is going to be denied compensation for the events of 911 because he was gay? Is 
this America? Are we a country who proclaims equality for all its citizens? 
Am I missing something? I don't get it. 


Individual Comment

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December 13, 2001  


Kenneth L. Zwick, Director  
Office of Management Programs, Civil Division U.S. Department of Justice  
FAX - (301)519-5956   


Dear MR. Zwick:  

I am writing in response to the Department's request for public comments
regarding the forthcoming regulations for implementing and administering 
the "September 11 Victim Compensation Fund." I strongly urge the
Department to draft regulations that ensure compensation is available to
all victims of the attack, including the committed partners and the non-
biological children of gay and lesbian victims.  

It is unquestionable that the devastating grief and economic losses
suffered by the families of gay and lesbian victims are no less than that
of other families. Just as the terrorists drew no lines in choosing their
victims, our country must draw no lines in compensating those who 
suffered the most personal of losses from these horrific attacks.  

Many Americans lost their lives on September 11, each of whom left
behind loved ones. I urge the Department to honor these bonds by treating
the families of gay and lesbian victims as you would any other.  

Sincerely,  

Individual Comment   


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Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:01 PM
September 11 Victim's Compensation Fund

It would be wonderful if all the surviving family members of those who died in
the September 11 attacks on our nation were justly compensated. How can our
Nation ensure that each and every case is given equal attention and
consideration? It seems the fund established by Congress and signed into law by
our President is a large step in the right direction, but can it be perfectly
equitable?

If a person who died at the World Trade Center, or the Pentagon, or the
Pennsylvania crash site had life insurance, and that person's family will
rightfully receive adequate benefits from that policy, giving the family money
from the Victim's Compensation Fund would, in my opinion, be an injustice.
Are there people whining about compensation being too little, and sounding
greedy?

Many of the people who lost husbands or wives or lovers on September 11 need to
follow the example of a hero of mine. Her name was  . Her husband, a
veteran of WWII, died in the crash of his crop-dusting aircraft in 1952, in the
days before multi-million dollar wrongful death suits.   was left to raise
three sons who were 8, 4, and 2 years old. She did not sue the owner of the
plane in which her husband died, and there was no life insurance.   did
receive some Social Security and VA benefits. With the help of her family,
  completed her college education. She went to work as a school teacher in
New Mexico, and made a life for herself and her sons. She eventually earned a
Master's degree in art education, and though never financially wealthy,  was
blessed with many wonderful friends, and eventually retired after teaching many
years in the Albuquerque, NM, public schools. She never remarried.

A few years before she retired she was diagnosed with MS, a disease that
eventually made her a quadraplegic. She was cared for by a nursing home in
Albuquerque for the last seven years of her life, which ended January 12, 2002.
In short, in some ways, she had rough and tragic life. But...
She never complained about the death of her husband, though she grieved his
loss.

She never complained about the loss of her health, though she did express a
desire to be healed. When friends and visitors saw her, her questions were about their lives, needs,
and concerns.

Basically, when the unfairness of life hit her squarely and brutally, she took a
deep breath, and moved on with living. She trusted in God, loved her kids and
friends, and did her best.

The persons who lost loved ones on September 11, 2002, need to realize how
blessed they are! To have a Nation that's trying to help. To have a Congress and
Presidential administration that has acted to provide relief, and very generous
relief! At least, that's the view from here.

And I think I'm entitled to that view. You see,   was my mother. I was 2
years old when my Dad died. And I know how much we depended on Social Security
and VA benefits. Had someone offered us help from a "victim's compensation
fund," it would have been greatly welcomed. I think it's great of our Nation to
act with compassion! But regardless of how much money we make available to those
living victims of September 11, nothing, nothing, NOTHING, can bring their loved ones back. And the way they can best honor the memories of
those who died is to grieve their loss, and then live courageously, and fully,
and joyfully!

Sincerely,

Individual Comment
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