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vfr-digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 01 : Number 4580




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Digest contents (subjects):

001: Rob McKinnon Re: 800 headers
002: Rob McKinnon My personal 2002 musings FWIW.
003: Radu Nedelcu 2002 VFR comments (long)
004: Anabelle13 2002 pipes
005: Rob McKinnon 2002 HP/Torque figures (converted from metric)
006: Kevin R Fw: Tiffany Update
007: Mike Roell Re: 2002 VFR comments (long)
008: Tom Heron Chain Driven Cams on Honda's 2002 VFR - Oh No!!!
009: Brian Light 2002 VFR...MISSED THE MARK AGAIN!!
010: Adam Begley 02 - told ya !
011: Rupert.Williams Re: 2002 VFR
012: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dez=20 2002 model... just my humble .02 cents
013: Adam Begley '02 - unofficial nickname?
014: Christopher Leach RE: [bavfr] For those not on the big list, the
2002
015: Corey Risolvato Re: vfr-digest V1 #4578
016: Richard L. Casale My opinion of the 2002 VFR
017: Greg Wood FS:1998 VFR 800Fi - Price Reduced
018: Stewart, Craig A Paging Jonathan.
019: Andy George My '02 thoughts...
020: Gary Dehner Front brake pulsing on VFR800 Addendum
021: louis guttilla Holy Shit...
022: Stewart, Craig A HOLY CRAP
023: deoredx Re: Holy Shit...
024: Re: Holy Shit... Ross Weitzner
025: deoredx Re: Re: Holy Shit...
026: Dave Lawrence Re: reg/rect, etc
027: Stewart, Craig A RE: Holy Shit...
028: Nate in N.E. Re: Holy Shit...
029: Wayne Beaver RE: ... amongst all this 2002 talk ...
030: Jim Plutnicki - Workg '02 VFR

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:58:51 -0400

From: "louis guttilla" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: Holy Shit...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 021

A plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.
The building is on fire, I'm staring right at it.
I pray to God no one is hurt, but it appears as if the top floors are all on
fire.

Lou
NYC

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:01:26 -0400

From: "Stewart, Craig A" [private]>
To: "'VFR owners group'" [private]>,
"'Honda Sport Touring Association'" [private]>
Subject: HOLY CRAP
Message-ID:
[private].com>
X-Message-Number: 022

A 737 has just crashed into the top of one of the towers of the World Trade
center!
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:03:43 -0400

From: [private]
To: louis guttilla [private]>, [private]
Subject: Re: Holy Shit...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 023

Damn... this is one way to get up to the minue news. Excite news just put
up a brief blurb on it.

louis guttilla [private]> wrote:
> A plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.
The building is on fire, I'm staring right at it.

Lou
NYC

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:05:16 -0400

From: Ross Weitzner [private]>
To: louis guttilla [private]>, [private]>
Subject: Re: Holy Shit...
Message-ID: B7C3844C.2D65%[private]>
X-Message-Number: 024

on 9.11.01 8.58 AM, louis guttilla at [private] wrote:

> A plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.
> The building is on fire, I'm staring right at it.
> I pray to God no one is hurt, but it appears as if the top floors are all
on
> fire.

And then there was a second one that hit the second tower. If that's not
terrorism, I don't know what is.

:-
--
Ross Weitzner
[private]
Photographer, Unfulfilled Dreamer
'86 Honda VF1000R
'92 Honda VFR750F
Force V4 -- If you don't have it, you don't understand.


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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:09:54 -0400

From: [private]
To: Ross Weitzner [private]>, [private]
Subject: Re: Re: Holy Shit...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 025

A second one?!?!

Ross Weitzner [private]> wrote:
> on 9.11.01 8.58 AM, louis guttilla at [private] wrote:

And then there was a second one that hit the second tower. If that's not
terrorism, I don't know what is.

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:26:31

From: "Dave Lawrence" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: Re: reg/rect, etc
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 026

What is Honda's policy with reg/rect warranty? (rhetorical.....I'll check
before I buy ;) I was in touch with Electrex yesterday and they say they
won't have a unit for the VFR800 for 6 weeks.....sounds suspicious in light
of all the recent comments here. I'm suspicious of my original equipment
r/r after several no-start episodes before and after buying a new
battery....been monitoring the output as i ride and it is intermittently low
(ranges from 13.9V to 11.9V). These start failures always occur after
riding all day Electrex unit is $146, local Honda price is $169.22.

Shoei v Arai? How can you go wrong...Buy the one that feels best on your
head.

Dave Lawrence
ST1100
VFR800
Intruder 1500
R1 (son's)
GSX-R1000 (other son's)

DAMN!! Just watched what appears to be a terrorist attack on the World
Trade Center!! TWO planes crashed into the WTC within half hour.



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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:48:18 -0400

From: "Stewart, Craig A" [private]>
To: "'VFR owners group'" [private]>,
"'Honda Sport Touring Association'" [private]>
Subject: RE: Holy Shit...
Message-ID:
[private].com>
X-Message-Number: 027

For those w/o News Services...

1 plane crashed intentionally into each of the World Trade Center buildings
(2 planes total).

Both builings are on fire from the 1/2 to the 3/4 portions.

Excuse this break in ettiqute: FUCK
TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy Shit the Pentegon just got hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:47:13 -0400

From: "Nate in N.E." [private]>
To: [private], [private]
Subject: Re: Holy Shit...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 028

Crap. Fire at the Pentagon in DC as well. Bless all their souls, everyone
watch you asses...

Nate
'99 800Fi 'Gertrude'

The Vifferhead's Prayer

Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray above my R/R to keep.
If it should die before I wake,
My trip to work the cage must make.



>From: "louis guttilla" [private]>
>To: [private]
>Subject: Holy Shit...
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:58:51 -0400
>
>A plane just crashed into the World Trade Center.
>The building is on fire, I'm staring right at it.
>I pray to God no one is hurt, but it appears as if the top floors are all
>on
>fire.
>
>Lou
>NYC


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:10 PM
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Subject: vfr-digest V1 #4588



vfr-digest Thursday, September 13 2001 Volume 01 : Number 4588




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Digest contents (subjects):

001: louis guttilla Thank you...
002: Joe Foe Re: Have a great trip everyone.
003: Booth 2002 VFR Poll is up and running
004: Booth Re: 2002 VFR Poll is up and running
005: Mark Matre Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!!
006: Walshe, Gerald God bless America and hondavfr.com
007: vfr 800 RE: Gas Mileage
008: Kevin Glick RE: still in shock...
009: VfourMe Room at the Inn
010: Marc Brinker WDGAH - no shows only
011: Darryn A. Fessel Re: Gas Mileage
012: Marc Brinker WDGAH Schedule of "Events"
013: VFRESQ Hussey
014: RE: NADY MRC-11 Jeff Magar
015: KG Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!!
016: Mike Roell Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!! NVFRC
017: Bill Hussey Thank you ...
018: Don Wright For those of you with a sense of humor...
019: Quint Marcaletti terrible victory...
020: Robb Z sorta spam, sorta disaster relief, WTC
021: Jason Beren Re: For those of you with a sense of humor...
022: Robert Stone Power Commander: Fuel Efficiency Commander? :)
023: Robert Stone oil NOT causing CLUTCH SLIPPAGE
024: Kevin Glick FW: thought you might like this
025: Stewart, Craig A Barbers Museum from Kennesaw (Atlanta) Ga,
Friday 1
026: Booth 2002 Poll Update

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:18:26 -0400

From: "louis guttilla" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: Thank you...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 001

First & foremost, I'd like to thank everyone around the world for their
prayers, concerns, etc.. I rec'd several e-mails, from concerned Listers &
would like to thank them all.

I believe that I was the first to post the list on Tuesday morning's tragic
events. Immediately after I posted, I evacuated my building, 101 Hudson
Street in Jersey City, NJ. (about 3/10 miles accross the water from the WTC)

I cannot express in words, what has transpired since I last spoke w/the
List. Nor can I express what I saw, just a few hundred yards from the WTC.
Amazingly, all of my friends who worked in the area have survived. One was
late for work, another at a golf outing...luckily the rest escaped on time.
There were some broken bones, but everyone (at least I think) that I know
has survived. The sad reality is that I have dozens of neighbors & friends
who can not say the same.

I wouldn't dare tell everyone the horror that many of my friends witnessed.
I heard stories over the past 2 days that have crippled me emotionally.
Nothing is as real as being 6 inches from someone who is telling you what
they lived.

I have also heard stories that have inspired me.

After being "stranded" in NJ until 9:30am yesterday (not really I crashed at
my uncle's house) I returned to my apartment in Staten Island w/a new
friend. Tommy is unable to get back to his home in Battery Park City (up
the block from the WTC). I recently learned, that Staten Island is now
closed off at all borders due to terrorist suspicions. Funny, seems like
I'm locked out of my house while someone else is locked in, w/his foot in a
cast.

Not as tragically, I will not be able to attend WDGAH V, as my bike is down
& I have too much to deal w/@ home & work. I am now counting down the days
until COTU III & WDGAH VI! ;)
I hope everyone has a great time in light of what has happened & look
forward to seeing everyone soon.

God Bless everyone who is affected by this tragedy & may he have mercy on
the souls of those responsible.

Lou
NYC

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:13:57 -0700 (PDT)

From: Mark Matre [private]>
To: Corey Risolvato [private]>, [private],
[private], [private]
Subject: Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!!
Message-ID: [private].com>
X-Message-Number: 005



> I am talking about information that may be VITAL
> to the US for security
> reasons. It's simply about keeping your mouth shut
> and using your brains
> before you speak. Why do you think that is?
> Because the LESS the perpetrators know about what
> investigators (and military assassins - go SEALs,
HOOYA!!), the greater the chances af
> apprehending them. The 1st amendment gives you the
> right to say a great
> many things; your grey matter SHOULD give you the
> sense and intelligence and
> reason to NOT say it.

Mark said:

I am sure if you knew JB personally you would know
that he would never jeopardize an operation in
progress. The information about his former team mates
was broadcast on the local TV stations when they moved
out to Norfolk. Their destination is unknown as is
their mission. The local papers mentioned their mount
out with any destinations left blank. Did you notice
his signature at the bottom of the message or was this
just a knee jerk reaction ? I have been his friend
for over twenty years and and trust his judgement in
all military matters. My .02 worth.

VFR content, does anyone make a left side high mount
for my Y2K ? I would like to show off my wheel a
little more.

Mark M.
somewhere near the tidewater

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:18:57 -0700

From: "Walshe, Gerald" [private]>
To: "[private]'" [private]>
Subject: God bless America and hondavfr.com
Message-ID:
[private].com>
X-Message-Number: 006

FYI,

Just went to the hondavfr.com website, all that is shown are the words "God
bless America". What class, what compassion, what thoughtfulness!! It makes
me proud to ride a VFR and be associated with all those who do also. Ride
safe everyone.

God bless.

Gerry Walshe
'00 VFR (Yellow of course)

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:44:22 -0400

From: "Kevin Glick" [private]>
To: "Bruce and Michele" [private]>,
"Chris Stumpf" [private]>,
"VFR Mailing list" [private]>
Subject: RE: still in shock...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 008

YOu know this is the one that bothers me. IT DIDN'T TAKE BIG MONEY. Not in
the grand scheme of things. If it took MAYBE 100k I'd be surprised. Their
greatest expense was training one or two pilots who then had to teach one or
two others the relatively simple task of steering the plane and pointing it
at a 700ft wide target. They didn't need to take off or land they just
needed to know where the transponder switch was and which way to point it.
Hell even the bombs where free :-(

kev


It takes _big_ money to pull off
> what was just done;
> it
> would be harder if the terrorists didnt have two nickels to rub
> together. Eliminate
> their
> money sources.
> Bruce in Tucson
>

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:18:53 EDT

From: [private]
To: [private]
Subject: Hussey
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 013

I spoke to Bill this morning, and he's OK. He now lives with his true love
in Chinatown, about 10 blocks from theWTC, and he saw most of what happened
first hand - including the collapse of both towers. What he describes is
beyond belief!

He got to his office this morning with great difficulty, and is now waiting
to learn if he has to work tomorrow, which apparently depends on whether the
stock market is open or not. If he's not working, he and Chris Pitts are
planning on meeting me and my buddy Richard at my place in Connecticut at
around 10:00 a.m., and we'll head for West Lebanon (although if its raining
and looks like its about to stop, we may delay the departure for a little
while).

Although we didn't discuss this, knowing Bill, if he has to work, he'll
leave
NYC after work and be in NH late Friday night . . . (didn't he do something
like that two years ago at Lake George?)

So . . . ride safe, and we'll see you guys tomorrow.

Chris Burdett
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:36:07 -0700

From: "KG" [private]>
To: [private]>, [private]>
Subject: Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!!
Message-ID: 006601c13c82$f6fd6060$[private].net>
X-Message-Number: 015

Patrick Wrote:

Boy, I sure do hope you and your ilk put a stop to this damned freedom we
Americans have had for the last 225 years or so. Perhaps you would like to
take away our guns with our freedom of speech? How about declaring martial
law and eliminating the needs for those pesky "search warrants" that have
plagued LEOs for so long? I was just thinking today that my encryption keys
should be given to the FBI in order to make sure I don't say anything wrong.

Nice to see my homeland has upheld its freedom.

I quote John Perry Barlow, EFF (eff.org):
As most of you know, I believe that the United States has gradually, subtly,
invisibly to most of us, become a police state over the last 30 years.
--snip--
Within a few hours, we will see beginning the most vigorous efforts to end
what remains of freedom in America. Those of who are willing to sacrifice a
little - largely illusory - safety in order to maintain our faith in the
original ideals of America will have to fight for those ideals just as
vigorously.

I beg you to begin NOW to do whatever you can - whether writing your public
officials, joining the ACLU or EFF, taking to the streets, or living visibly
free and fearless lives - to prevent the spasm of control mania from
destroying the dreams that far more have died for over the last two hundred
twenty five years than died this morning.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtcattack/message/93

For those who don't know, John Perry Barlow is a songwriter, cattle rancher,
and co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). Despite how you
may feel about him personally, he fights for the rights of all Americans.

_______________________

Pat:
As long as your penchant for "rights" is appropriately balanced with a clear
understanding of the "responsibilities" that attend each of those rights, I
can live with this kind of diatribe. The ACLU, and their ilk, however, seem
to constantly yammer on and on about the rights that define freedom in
America...... That's simply unadulterated BULL****. It's really the
execution of our personal responsibilities that guard our freedom and
subsequently guarantee our rights.

BrianG


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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT)

From: Mike Roell [private]>
To: "VFR List" [private]>
Subject: Re: Classified info - shut the hell up!!! NVFRC
Message-ID: [private].com>
X-Message-Number: 016

Mmm, sarcasm. Isn't that nice.

Freedom of speech is great and I really can't stand it when people try
to squash it. However, IT DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE LEAKING OF CLASSIFIED
TROOP AND EQUIPMENT MOVEMENTS!! There are many things that the enemy
doesn't need to know.

Mike
San Diego, CA

--- Patrick Schoonveld [private]> wrote:
snipped sarcastic garbage>

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:12:53 -0400

From: "Bill Hussey" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: Thank you ...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 017

Thank you all for your concerns, I am fine. I am sorry I was unable to
contact anyone before now, but the situation around here is ... I can't find
a word.

I had a coworker email us Tuesday morning because they stopped his train
and said that there was a fire at the WTC which didn't alarm anyone. 5
seconds later a member of the Unix team here came over and said that Ray (my
boss' boss) just came out of the WTC and a plane had hit it. We threw on
the radio at my desk, which indeed confirmed that a large plane had struck
the north tower, and we all ran outside to watch.

We got out there in plenty of time to watch as the second plane smashed
into the south tower, I was on a payphone talking to my girlfriend at the
time and our line was cut off the instant the second plane hit. I was 8
blocks away and a minimum of 600 feet below the blast and I could still feel
the heat.

Paper fell from both towers for what seemed like forever, some of it
burning, most of it just glittering in the sun. Then the people started to
jump .... I watched some of them .... it was like being on the set of a
movie, one with no special effects ... I don't know any other way to
describe it.

We stood there, a co-worker and I, and just watched, stunned, frozen,
confused, frightened ... you name the negative emotion, we all felt it. By
this time they had evacuated our building too, and as my whole company
watched ... the south tower crumbled in a diplay of sight and sound that I
can't remotely begin to describe. 5 seconds later I turned around and
walked back to the apartment in China Town that I'm currently living in. I
got there just in time to turn on the news and watch the second tower
crumble.

My girlfriend and I stayed glued to the news Tuesday night, finally
deciding around 6PM that we'd go get my car from the parking garage, get my
cell phone and personal items from the office (I'd left them all upstairs
not realizing what was about to happen), and we'd go give blood. We got to
the office, and it wasn't just our office anymore, the front atrium was a
triage center. We couldn't get in the building at all, so we tried
volunteering.

NYC ... an amazing place. By this time they had had more volunteers than
they needed at the triage center. We walked up 3 blocks where they were
taking voluteers for Ground 0 cleanup ... but since neither of us were iron
or construction workers, we were turned away. We went to the Red Cross a
few more blocks away, but they were full as well.

We went and got my car out of the parking garage, bastards charged me the
surcharge for leaving the vehicle past 7PM ... and headed for uptown where
we would try to give blood. Asked a cop near the Holland Tunnel if he knew
where the nearest blood center was, and he asked us if we could give a
fireman a ride up to 66th Street.

His name was Mitch, nice guy, apologized for putting his helmet on my
dashboard because he didn't mean to dirty my car ... he explained to us that
they needed people to drive the ladder truck out of this fire station
because the entire company had been lost when the first tower collapsed ...
the entire company.

We tried to give blood, but they were turning people away and asking us to
come back tomorrow, we went home and called it a night. The next day was
just as eery, if not worse. No vehicles ... none at all except emergency
and construction vehicles, allowed to move below 14th Street. I had my car,
but I couldn't move it. At Houston St., a barracade set up that stretched
from from the east edge of the island to the west, no one in or out unless
you had ID showing that you lived there. I went to walk my girlfriend to
work on 33rd St, but I had to turn around before the barracade otherwise I
wouldn't have been let back in.

I went back home (China Town), grabbed my camera and 8 rolls of film, and
went for a walk. I can't describe what it's like, walking along Canal St,
with not a vehicle in sight other than the occasional dump truck or police
car. Canal St is bumper to bumper every day of the year, every hour of the
day ... and it was just empty, as was every other street for as far as I
could see. I tried getting south of Canal so I could get to my office and
retrieve my cell phone which is where I have all my friends and family's
phone numbers stored, but no one, not even residents, are allowed down
there. I watched for a few minutes as one couple pleaded with officers to
let them by, their dog hadn't eaten in 24 hours and would starve to death
soon, but the police had their orders and no one was let past.

Got a call from my bosses last night, asking me if there was any way that
I could get to the office tomorrow. Woke up early, went over to Canal, and
tried asking nicely, but there was no way. Ended up waiting by a small side
street where they had only posted two cops to watch, one went for coffee,
and while the other turned to yell out a change to his order, I had to slip
under the rope and hide behind a dumpster for a minute before silently
moving away and slipping over to my office ... I feel like secret agent man.

Well, I'm back at the office now, finally have access to email, and
finally have my cell phone back. I'm one of the ones fortunate enough to
not have known (at least I don't think so at this point) anyone involved in
this horror, but my heart goes out to everyone touched by this gutless act.

Someone was very stupid Tuesday .... they have once again brought up on
it's feet, a sleeping giant. May the cowardly souls who committed this
crime be subjected to horrors and pains they never thought were possible.
God have no mercy on their souls.

Bill

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:48:52 -0400

From: "Don Wright" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: For those of you with a sense of humor...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 018

Here is something I found on the Internet and found amusing. It is an
annimation of OBL that someone did. It has foul language and has sick
depictions, but thought some of you might find it amusing as well...

If you don't like it, or don't want to see it, I don't care. But...if you
do...

http://www.ernieshouseofwhoopass.com/osama.html>





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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:08 -0400

From: "Quint Marcaletti" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: terrible victory...
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 019

SNIP:
""It would be a terrible victory for the terrorists if we turned that
anger on each other. Now is certainly not the time for political
agendas, rhetoric and disagreements.""

Agreed...remember, we're only talking about a handful of terrorists
here, not a nation, race, religion, etc.

Neil Peart sums it up nicely:
"Better the pride
that resides
in a citizen of the world
than the pride
that divides
when a colorful rag is unfurled"

If I thought differently, I'd be on an "American-made" bike. (VFR
content)

This isn't about America -VS- them, it's about conquering/controlling
the dark side of our human nature. Yes, we must do whatever it takes
to prevent recurrence, but we have to weigh the costs of "eye for an
eye" actions.
God bless America....and the rest of us too!
QAM




Tusco.Net, Inc. Webmail

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:01:41

From: "Robb Z" [private]>
To: [private]
Subject: sorta spam, sorta disaster relief, WTC
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 020


Folks,

I'd promised myself not to SPAM this list anymore, but things change. I'll
be brief; we're putting together a donation to benefit a fund set up for the
families of the firefighters & police personnel lost in New York this past
week, and are donating ALL PROFITS ($75 per unit) from our direct Fastbag
sales to that fund. Details at our website, www.usfastbag.com

Offer available in areas not serviced by dealers (i.e., about 46 of the 50
states), valid through 9/25. Feel free to pass this info along to other moto
lists which you think might have interested members. Thanks & God bless.

Robb Zimdars
Winding Roads Motorcycle Products

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:57:52 -0700 (PDT)

From: Jason Beren [private]>
To: Don Wright [private]>, [private]
Subject: Re: For those of you with a sense of humor...
Message-ID: [private].com>
X-Message-Number: 021

For all the crying I've been doing at work I really
welcomed a good laugh!

Thanks a million :-)

!@#$! OBL!




--- Don Wright [private]> wrote:
> Here is something I found on the Internet and found
> amusing. It is an
> annimation of OBL that someone did. It has foul
> language and has sick
> depictions, but thought some of you might find it
> amusing as well...
>
> If you don't like it, or don't want to see it, I
> don't care. But...if you
> do...
>
> http://www.ernieshouseofwhoopass.com/osama.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:18:16 -0400

From: "Kevin Glick" [private]>
To: "Near England Area Race List (NEAR)" [private]>,
"NYC Moto Digest" [private]>, "VFR" [private]>
Subject: FW: thought you might like this
Message-ID: [private]>
X-Message-Number: 024

Remember ALL of this as we go forward and make decisions on how
to deal with this and future predicatments.


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania,
1759.

FYI I'm not a big "flag waver" but I like this.

> Hi guys,
> I appreciate the wallpaper. So, to try to return the
> favor, I send this along for your reflection.
> Bruce
>
>
> I AM THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>
> I am the flag of the United States of America. My name
> is Old Glory. I fly
> atop the world's tallest buildings. I stand watch in
> America's halls of
> justice. I fly majestically over institutions of
> learning. I stand guard
> with power in the world. Look up and see me.
>
> I stand for peace, honor, truth and justice. I stand for
> freedom. I am
> confident. I am arrogant. I am proud.
>
> When I am flown with my fellow banners, my head is a
> little higher, my
> colors a little truer.
>
> I bow to no one! I am recognized all over the world. I
> am worshipped - I am
> saluted. I am loved - I am revered. I am respected --
> and I am feared.
>
> I have fought in every battle of every war for more then
> 200 years. I was
> flown at Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Shiloh and
> Appomattox. I was there at San
> Juan Hill, the trenches of France, in the Argonne
> Forest, Anzio, Rome and
> the beaches of Normandy, Guam. Okinawa, Korea and
> KheSan, Saigon, Vietnam
> know me, I was there. I led my troops, I was dirty,
> battleworn and tired,
> but my soldiers cheered me And I was proud. I have been
> burned, torn and
> trampled on the streets of countries I have helped set
> free. It does not
> hurt, for I am invincible.
>
> I have been soiled upon, burned, torn and trampled on
> the streets of my
> country. And when it's by those whom I've served in
> battle -- it hurts. But
> I shall overcome -- for I am strong.
>
> I have slipped the bonds of Earth and stood watch over
> the uncharted
> frontiers of space from my vantage point on the moon. I
> have borne silent
> witness to all of America's finest hours. But my finest
> hours are yet to
> come.
>
> When I am torn into strips and used as bandages for my
> wounded comrades on
> the battlefield, When I am flown at half-mast to honor
> my soldier, Or when I
> lie in the trembling arms of a grieving parent at the
> grave of their fallen
> son or daughter, I am proud.
>
> MY NAME IS OLD GLORY LONG MAY I WAVE. DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN
> LONG MAY I WAVE
>
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
> little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania,
> 1759.
>

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